sea apple in a larege system?

Sry not to change the subject but is that an AB on the right side of your avatar? I have a 3 year old male and female. Good dogs.
 
i have had my sea apple for 1 yr and it is doing great..quite beautiful.
when i first got it i was flamed on another site for haveing something that wont survive and will kill off my system. (LFS shouldnt sell--dont support them etc.)
my understanding is that if stressed the toxins can kill the fish. but, i think it would take something bigtime to stress them.
its like having a sea hare or cucumber. if they die and you dont get them out in time they will foul the water. their are lots of warnings out there ; but not many actual stories from personal experience. like any invert, as long as they are eating and pooping they are doing great
 
Actually, that isn't exactly true (equating the sea hare to the sea apple.) Sea hares have no toxins in them, so the danger of them dying in your system is the same as anything dying in your system -- there will be a big spike in ammonia that your system may or may not be able to handle. Pseduocolochirus spp. actually have a toxin that they can release, called holothurin, and this toxin can kill fish. I don't know if it is 100% scientifically documented that all sea cucumber species contain this toxin, but reports seem to suggest that, even if all cucs have the ability, some are much less likely to release their toxin than others.
 
Hmmmm. when i google sea hare toxin i get a lot of info.
but a sea apple can wipe out your tank but not as likely as suggested...that would be the worst case possible...most likely it would starve and die. then it would be no different than a sea hare dying. get it out before it rots~
 
You can get a lot of google hits for things that aren't necessarily true -- some sea hares can ink, but that ink is not a toxin. Greenbean describes it as an "amino-acid" soup.
 
Yup, it's not a toxin issue with the sea hares, but big animal + decomposition = trouble. The rotting animal is not really the dangerous part of keeping sea apples. The sea apples actually produce toxins. If you just happen to get a crab or fish in the tank that decides to taste of it, you'll see why all the people recommend against keeping them in tanks with a lot of other animals. If you visit some of the public aquaria, you'll see that most of them have sea apples...but they are in tanks with nothing else.

Cheers,



Don
 
overall i agree you take a risk at keeping the sea apple in your tank.
a separate tank would be the ideal...important to note that you do have to feed them as well.:D
 
thanks alot guys for the help,I love my sea apple but i can`t take that chance I have some nice and rare fish that i can`t afford to loose
 
Somebody I knew had a sea apple, and he went away on vacation. He got back a week later and the sea apple had gotten sucked into the overflow and EVERYTHING was dead, the fish, the corals, everything. He ended up just breaking down his tank.
 
jnbrex said:
Somebody I knew had a sea apple, and he went away on vacation. He got back a week later and the sea apple had gotten sucked into the overflow and EVERYTHING was dead, the fish, the corals, everything. He ended up just breaking down his tank.
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I hope that never happens to me I love my sea apple and my tank :rollface:
 
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