sea apples?

snabss

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is anyone keeping a sea apple in their tank? i am interested in keeping one. and yes i have researched about the toxins in their body but i still think they are worth a try :)
do you know of any LFS that has them in stock? plus which one would you suggest, the Indonesian or the Australian?
thanks
 
i have seen them from time to time at Sea Splendor in Fairfeild i think that i saw a couple when i was last there 3 weeks ago
 
ah! fairfield is kinda far :( i am in south bay. thanks for the input though.

any LFS in south/east bay or peninsula have it ?
 
haven't seen any in awhile. I think I saw a cool one online somewhere for sale. Maybe reefermadness.
 
T&T in SJ Downtown has them everytime I go there. They are not easy to take care. Why do you want to take a risk??
 
well, i think they are mis understood:) i think if taken good care of, they will prove to be a great addition to the reef. and they look beautifull, so i want to try. i would QT them for a few weeks before adding to the main tank. see how they respond.

where is TT in san jose?
 
Do you know what to feed them? If we all misunderstand them, please enlighten us.
 
thanks Elite,
Qwiv, i meant they are not as dangerous as they are considered, not as in "no one knows anything about them". no insult or pun was intended.

as far as feeding is concerned, they are filter feeders. and mostly eat micro plankton from the water channel. they extend their feeder tentacles in the water column, then take one of the tentacles in their mouth, where the glands that produce the mucus (sp?) are present, the tentacle is coated in that mucus and then stuck out on the water column, once its covered with micro plankton, its cleaned off, covered with fresh mucus and stuck out again. the need to be in an area of moderate light and high, somewhat directional, flow.

i have found all this information on line. its not first hand experience, so dont flame me if any or all of it doesn't make sense:)

its just an experiment, i will keep you guys updated once i get it :)
 
If you don't mind the drive, 6th Avenue Aquarium and Flowers on Clement st. in SF had 3 big ones and 2 little ones yesterday that I passed by.
 
GO back, it's a trap! ;) They're interesting, but they're a really large biomass if they check out in a closed tank. If you have one, run carbon, a lot of carbon, and be ruthless about netting it out if it shows any symptoms of imminent death.
 
maybe you can also dose your tank with constant DT's phyto amongst other things. Does it take in phytoplankton or zooplankton?
 
I think it is pretty sad to see as many of these as people are seeing in the LFS. See Apples can easily eat a bottle of phyto a month which can become quite a spendy creature to keep in your tank. They mostly eat phyto, 90%+. You also need to feed the live phyto and they are very specific as to what size particles they will consume. The dead phyto tends to clump up, becoming to large for the animal to eat.

They shouldn't be in a tank with corals as the stings can be stressful/fatal. They are normally stresses at the LFS. The pretty big ones at the LFS are normally the ones in the worst health as inflating is a stress responce. They can take over a year to slowly die in you tank so people don't notice that they are not providing for the creatures needs and think they are doing a good job with the animal, when they are not.

I don't think the risk of killing your tank is the problem with keeping them, it is the husbandry required. They are more work then soft corals that require feeding everyday. It is actually pretty rare to have them nuke a tank due to the use of their defences. More likely, they either die and pollute the tank like any large death, or they got sucked into a powerhead.

I would recommend you get some sun polyps or other non photosynthetic soft coral and see if you can get it to grow and reproduce before you try a sea apple. That would be a good indication that you can meet a sea apples needs and not risk your tank. If you do go for the sea apple, I would put it in a dedicated tank or a refugium. Plan on buying a bottle of DT's/Phyto Feast Live a month/or grow your own phyto.
 
thanks for all the suggestion guys,
i do feed phyto plankton to my tank everyday. and yes i do agree they will require lots of it. i am culturing my own phyto so it wouldnt be too expensive. i was starting the culture with DT and its been working fine so far but to be on the safe side i just got nano and tetra cultures from florida fram, i will start those on the weekend. so hopefully i should be fine on the phyto front.
i also run a phosban reactor on my tank. it has phosban and carbon. its been running for months (ofcourse i change the medis, often:P) i will increase the amount of carbon.
i am planning in getting the apple from dolphin. tyler was telling me that he has had it for a few months. and it saw it the other day, its not inflated. i do plan on setting up a seperate tank, QT for it. keep it there for a couple of weeks and then add to the main tank.

wow! the apple on liveauaria is awesome but too much dough :) i will stick with something cheaper and local. i have never been comfy ordering livestock online.
 
a qt tank may be too sterile for the guy if not dosed heavily! I'd recommend qt'ing for no more than a few days, then putting him into a matured tank.

dose like crazy! please take pix for us too and record your findings =)
 
i will do that :) for the time in my reef keeping incarnation i am thinking about keeping a log:P
we will see how it goes
 

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