SEASL By-laws change request

"From what I know, Nic is not running the club, simply someone who is generous enough to allow a lot of people to come to his place for a meeting. Members will decide whether Nic should be an executive member."

No, he isnt someone who out of the goodness of his heart is letting SEASL use his place. He is a shady businessman who is trying to rebuild for a profit what he let fall down with local reefers. Dont confuse the two.
 
Quote one personal attack that I have made. The officers are hereby given permission to post every email or PM that I have sent to any one of them.

I have questioned the fact of the "suggestion box" being made unsticky shortly after sending my first request for a change. I have also said it is no huge effort to change the wording, notify members and count votes and even volunteered to help.

Show me where I have personally attacked anyone.
 
All excellent points and a very helpful post. Thanks Darrin.

It just shows that there is a lot to consider. Some people are expecting too much too fast. Changing the By-laws is a big deal and should not be rushed into. I have no problem giving the officers time to work this out. I just want to know that the issue is being addressed in some way by the officers.

I have no problem with the officers themselves or SEASL. I also think that things can change.

Perception is a major problem in any written communication. It is very easy to misinterpret someone's comments and people get taken the wrong way all the time. It is extremely difficult to determine someone's feelings by looking at written words. It happens all too often here that someone reads a post and takes it the wrong way. We all just need to chill and don't take things personally, members and officers included.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6854782#post6854782 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capncapo
Show me where I have personally attacked anyone.
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That was a general statement and not pointed at any one individual.

I answered your quote. The following statements were not related to that quote, nor to this thread specifically.
 
"The following statements were not related to that quote, nor to this thread specifically."

They are directly related to my point.

Then you will admit that your "general statement" does not apply in my case? You seem to be painting with a very broad brush.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6855011#post6855011 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capncapo
"The following statements were not related to that quote, nor to this thread specifically."

They are directly related to my point.

Then you will admit that your "general statement" does not apply in my case? You seem to be painting with a very broad brush.
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This is not the first thread concerning the Executive Officers and changes that wish to be made.

If it is "broad", it is due to the fact that it is not a one-on-one conversation.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6815652#post6815652 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capncapo
Well, day number 3 now and still no answer. How long does it take to change two lines of the by-laws or respond to the membership?

Sure hope the the board doesn't delay things as long as they can and then say it's too late to make the changes before nomination / vote day.
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I would consider this an attack on the Executive Members - no?

Sounds to me that you are saying that they are incapable of handling their elected positions - no?

Please clarify if I am incorrect in my interpretation.
 
Attack?

I think not. Merely stating a fact and my opinion..

You seem to be putting words into my mouth. It says exactly what it says. Why do you need to read something into it other than what it states? If I meant something else I would have said something else.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6855240#post6855240 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capncapo
Again, does your statement mean yes or no.
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In my book, that is an attack - YES.

I asked for clarification of your statement. You have decided not to clarify.

You are questioning their ability to come to an answer in a timely manner.

If someone questions your ability to do your job, is that a personal attack on you?
 
The statements need NO clarification. They stand on their own. They mean EXACTLY what they say.

You seem to be laboring under the misconception that everything anyone states has an alternative meaning. I call a spade a spade. If I feel that the board is incapable of doing their job I state it.

Wondering why things are taking so long is not an attack ... it is simply wondering why things are taking so long.
 
That is where we differ - opinion. Not SEASL's opinion, but mine.

I would like to see this thread take a positive spin, but it will take the author to make that change.

Are you willing?
 
You have yet to answer my question.

You know, some COULD construe your statement as a personal attack towards me. Was it?

This thread was begun with a positive spin with the benefit of EVERY SEASL member in mind.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6812524#post6812524 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sirreal63
To be fair....I don't think most of us know what positions we are nominating for. I could not find on the SEASL homepage what offices were being vacated. Is this information listed somewhere and I missed it?
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I'm not sure if anyone clarified this issue, but yes, the information was posted on SEASL's home page (SEASL.org).

It will refer you to the By-Laws which will describe the fact that:

"All Executive Officers shall hold office for three years starting May 1 following their election in April. Executive Officers rotate out of office and off the Executive Committee after three years of service. These positions are staggered and will therefore present a vacated seat on the Executive Committee each year. The Executive Officer rotating off the committee may run for and hold any other office that same year but must take one year off from service as an Executive Officer."

The other positions : Secretary and Treasurer are voted on every year according to "Article VI, Section 1"
 
Darrin,

I'm still waiting for two answers.

You can call this a personal attack too but I think that we both know better. It illustrates my post EXCATLY. Am I attacking you? Hardly.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6855398#post6855398 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capncapo
You have yet to answer my question.
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I did answer your question bluntly.

It seems that you are not trying to provide the SEASL members with constructive ways of improving the club, but rather create excessive drama that is unwarranted.

Furthermore, I will not continue to take part in such a poorly orchestrated argument. There have been no improvements since the initial statements, but rather negative comments about the club and its' Officers in general.

Creating dissention among the SEASL members is not what SEASL is about - never was.

If anyone has a valid question for me, please PM me. I am not an Executive Officer and will only be able to provide opinion.

Good day!
 
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