Seio`s Multicontroller
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bergzy
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i am waiting for two replies:
1) GROUP BUY!
2) some guy that is going to get one, break down the schematics and make one for 1/10th the price.
i will do what i usually do about the 'latest thing'. wait for everyone to get one, find the problems with it, the company will fix them, re-release the product at a lower price.
now, i will go to the lfs and pick up that 100+ polyp acan lord colony for $80 (plus tax)!
seriously...it looks like an awesome product...something i have been waiting for...waiting til' one goes on sale on the 'used equipment' forum for 70% off retail!
1) GROUP BUY!
2) some guy that is going to get one, break down the schematics and make one for 1/10th the price.
i will do what i usually do about the 'latest thing'. wait for everyone to get one, find the problems with it, the company will fix them, re-release the product at a lower price.
now, i will go to the lfs and pick up that 100+ polyp acan lord colony for $80 (plus tax)!
seriously...it looks like an awesome product...something i have been waiting for...waiting til' one goes on sale on the 'used equipment' forum for 70% off retail!
jwalters103
Active member
so if you set 2 seios on one end of the tank facing the other end and both set on this device, would the resulting surge be similar to a wavebox (creating a wave) or are the pumps not strong enough to accomplish that?
otterpop510
New member
huh?.. yeah, i'm not that impressed for the $200 pricetag that it can't alternate its controls of the two pumps, at that price its starting to get up there into tunze controller price territory..
don't get me wrong, i like my seios pumps for the price.. but for $200 the controller should be able to alternate at a minimum i would think, and then to say 'just buy 2 or them at $200 apiece.." did no one at taam check to see what customers would want or be willing to buy?..
don't get me wrong, i like my seios pumps for the price.. but for $200 the controller should be able to alternate at a minimum i would think, and then to say 'just buy 2 or them at $200 apiece.." did no one at taam check to see what customers would want or be willing to buy?..
I ask myself this question.....lets do some math!
How much does a TS48 kit cost here in Canada$ 1800.00
How much will a SEIO kit cost =4 x 2600 and 2X SEIO controllers=1000$.
Now to me thats a hell of a savings dont you think.......or do you want it for FREE lol....
How much does a TS48 kit cost here in Canada$ 1800.00
How much will a SEIO kit cost =4 x 2600 and 2X SEIO controllers=1000$.
Now to me thats a hell of a savings dont you think.......or do you want it for FREE lol....
The second one..
To those that don't want this... a simple solution... don't buy it... if you want a controller that operates like a tunze... buy a tunze.. or go to a good electrical engineering college and build your own.
Dual controllers and 4 620s or 820s might be good on a middle sized tank 125-150 gallon range-- $500-600ish
mwood
Premium Member
The price difference between a tunze setup and a seio setup range between 20% and 100% higher for a comparable tunze setup. I'd say the price difference will be well justified to some. Tunze currently has a better reputation than Taam. Tunze users will say they are paying for quality.
However, I do think seio has a market. The market is clearly based on price. Some are simply not willing to pay $300 to $700 for a couple pumps. I think taam will need to keep this in mind. They would do better to reduce the price to around $150 and offer kits at discount prices, a couple seios and a controller for $250-$300 depending on pumps.
However, I do think seio has a market. The market is clearly based on price. Some are simply not willing to pay $300 to $700 for a couple pumps. I think taam will need to keep this in mind. They would do better to reduce the price to around $150 and offer kits at discount prices, a couple seios and a controller for $250-$300 depending on pumps.
zapata41
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even at a cheaper price they wont be a great seller IMO.
also a TS48 kit fill blow the sox off a 4x2600 seio kit.
i am not gonna start comparing these two controllers as it is not fair to the thread or the two products.
well lets just hope Taam surprises us with some extra features in the controller.
for someone that does want seios in a smaller tank and want s them on a timer then run a Chauvet timer. i ran 3 seios on it for close to a year with no problems and only clened them twice in that time frame. of course i had the switching at about 7min per channel
Tim
also a TS48 kit fill blow the sox off a 4x2600 seio kit.
i am not gonna start comparing these two controllers as it is not fair to the thread or the two products.
well lets just hope Taam surprises us with some extra features in the controller.
for someone that does want seios in a smaller tank and want s them on a timer then run a Chauvet timer. i ran 3 seios on it for close to a year with no problems and only clened them twice in that time frame. of course i had the switching at about 7min per channel
Tim
reef_dude76
Premium Member
Since the controller will not alternate pumps, why can't we just hook up two different size pumps to the same controller. Say a 1500 and a 800 or whatever. Even though they don't alternate, at least one would be stronger than the other and give some kind of varying flow pattern, especially if the Seio output stream is run through the output stream of the sump return.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
reef_dude76
Premium Member
By output stream, I mean the water flow exiting the Seio pump in the tank intersecting with the water flow stream out of the plumbing of the sump return.
I don't get it. What would running the SEIO on the path of the return flow do for you? 
I still don't see how you would get any kind of varying flow when both pumps are revved up and slowed down at the same time. Going from flow to no flow isn't exactly what I would call varying IMO.
I still don't see how you would get any kind of varying flow when both pumps are revved up and slowed down at the same time. Going from flow to no flow isn't exactly what I would call varying IMO.
MiddletonMark
Premium Member
That's how all but one manufacturer's wavemakers work - and people call that variable flow
mwood
Premium Member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7059508#post7059508 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MiddletonMark
That's how all but one manufacturer's wavemakers work - and people call that variable flow
Help me out here because I think he actually has a point. Although they still work and they do pulse, the traditional wavetimers alternate while this controller pulses both pumps on and off at the same time. I don't know which way would be better, but this controller is definitely different than others and may not be excepted well.
this gave me an idea-- you can run a 1500 and a 1100 pointed at each other-- the 1500 on the controller and the 1100 on constant--- (or any unmatched pair of seios)
the 1500 would vary flow between 500 to 1500 gph while the 1100 would put out 1100 gph constant-- this should alternate flow nicely as they alternate which has the most flow---
You could control 2 as long as they push against seperate constant flow sources...
I'm actually more interested in these now thinking this through-- its not a tunze-- don't try to compare it--
when given lemons......
dr.darkness
New member
Well it looks like Tamm blew it to me.I guess I'll just stick with my MJ and chauvet mods.Tamm thanks for the excitment anyhow.
The market will help decide the price... I have no idea what the cost to manufacture something like this would be-- it obviously has to be profitable for them to make/sell--
The Republican in me says the competition will help drive down cost and drive up quality...
The Democrat in me says that the govt should provide everyone with one of these (regardless of price) free of charge...
Is there a price for the controller yet.... I've only heard guestimates....
