Seio`s Multicontroller

Hmm Ok I guess this would be your idea of hacked up

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but I digress
 
Heres an idea - how about the discussion gets back to the SEIO MULTICONTROLLER! Not the Tunze, not the Maxi Mod, not closed loops, not the Chauvet timer, but the seio micro controller, considering this isnt intended to be a bash eachother's personal choices for their reef thread, its intended to show off something that Seio owners have been waiting for for a long time!

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I personally find $200 a bit steep, however, after I've seen/read some reviews, I might change my view. We're planning on another 2600 for our 150, and it'd be great to have one constant and the other pulsing. Not exactly wave/random action, but it'd be pretty cool, and I can imagine a few of my corals appreciateing it. The fish LOVED when we added the one 2600.
 
Well that SEIO controller was pounding water from one side of the display tank to the other,as we saw in the first few pics if I recall they were 1100 in there.
I also heard that the SEIOS run quite cool compared to others so I wonder how it will be with the controller probably cooler.:bum:

TAAM is also going to surprise everyone with something new that will blow our socks off......but I will wait for pics.
 
i told myself not to reply to this thread anymore since i am not helping out the controller info at all but i must.

my tank is also in my living room and lots of ppl & clients see it. everyone has had positive comments on the maxi mod and then when they see the flow from it ask for one for their tank.

as it has been said many times, the controlelr has its goods and bads. obviously the bad for us DIY'ers is that it isnt perfect, the main reason why we DIY stuff to make it perfect or near. the goods are that now we can control AC powerheads. heck a controller like this, if price low enough, could find a home in my equipment room to run the maxi that i currently have on a timer.

now going off slammin on dh for what he and plenty others have created and labeling it "a hacked up maxi" is kinda dumb. sure some have done it with less than ideal looks...

now reefsalt, have you owned a seio 2600. i have and i also sold it due to its size, wont go into others reason but size was the biggest reason. and no it wasnt too much flow, anything but. now if you can hide them in your tank then that is sweet since it will save you some compared to the tunze kit, but i bet you a year down the road from now you will be buying that tunze kit and kicking yourself for buying the seio kit.

also, there are plenty of others who have heard and say good things about chauvet timers, just check out the thread on it.

now to something related to the controller. has anyone heard anything more about price and a accurate ETA.

TIm
 
I have been using the SEIO pumps since they came out so I will be one of those who says they work well considering I placed it on a AS natural wave ,the reason I took it off it made a racket going back on.

I also believe a company can make mistakes with quality controll issues but to condem/bash there products even before it comes out well it would be like us bashing the DIY maxi mods its kinda a DUMB dont you think.

So why not let the thread go on about the SEIO Controller and its pumps and see where it takes us,in a few weeks the controllers will be out and we will have real hands on experience.

Someone made a good point aboout the TAAM saying its only good for SEIO`s it would make sence, If I was them I wouldnt want to liable for another brand of pump bieng used on the controller.
 
i dont feel that i did any bashing on the controller, i just stated how i feel about it not being able to controll the 2 chanells separetly.

but yes lets see where this thread goes and lets see some real prices.

yes, it is dumb to bash the maxi mods. i can bash on a seio all i want if i feel so since i have owned them and have liked how they worked for me when my tank needed that kind of flow. it just requires more now :D

Tim
 
The controllers sound like a good idea...even if they don't alternate the pumps. I would think having 2 pumps ramp up and then down from 30% to 100% would be quite similar to surge in the reef. Depending on placement, I would think that's how you would get the random flow as it bounces off LR. Of course, having returns or other pumps could help too.

I won't comment on quality. I'm only now looking at picking up a SEIO...and I obviously haven't played with one of these controllers yet. But based on the idea, I think it's pretty good.

I just wish this was a better deal for smaller tanks.

In a big tank, you might have 2 controllers and the larger SEIOs...but then it might be worth the investment in Tunze at some point.

In a small tank like mine (30g cube), you certainly don't need 4 SEIOs and 2 controllers. I'd really like two 620s that could be controlled. But, I'm not willing to pay $200 for a controller that controls two $35 pumps. Plus, I'm not sure where I could hide what looks like a really big control box given my set-up location etc.

You guys with big tanks may have something here. I think I'm going to pick up a 620...and then use MJs (unmodded) on timers. If only there was a smaller AND cheaper alternative like this for smaller tanks. Maybe one day...
 
The Seio controller is definately a product that has been on many people's wanted lists for a while.

It looks like an all around good product from what I can see so far.

I'm curious however, as to why they decided to have both pumps ramp up and down simultaneuosly, and not individually. A pulsing effect would have been nice as well.

Robin, is there any way to find out what steered their design this way?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7067067#post7067067 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tang_man_montreal
The Seio controller is definately a product that has been on many people's wanted lists for a while.

It looks like an all around good product from what I can see so far.

I'm curious however, as to why they decided to have both pumps ramp up and down simultaneuosly, and not individually. A pulsing effect would have been nice as well.

Robin, is there any way to find out what steered their design this way?

I wonder if they had to. If they had to do some heavy electrical manipulation to get it to work, they may have had the choice of having both ramp up and down together or duplicating all systems.

Marcus
 
I remember way back when the 820 first came out and the first talk of the controller started. A LFS here heard that the controller would only work on new pumps configured for the controller. It was the reason I didn't buy more Seios at the time. So now that the controller will work with all pumps I wonder if they were forced into this setup because of how the early pumps were configured. Just a guess.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7065055#post7065055 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zapata41
i can bash on a seio all i want if i feel so since i have owned them and have liked how they worked for me when my tank needed that kind of flow.

Gosh I'm glad people are finally starting to make sense. LOL
If you bash, you would be a liar according to your above quoted statement.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7066375#post7066375 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mattgreene22
The controllers sound like a good idea...even if they don't alternate the pumps. I would think having 2 pumps ramp up and then down from 30% to 100% would be quite similar to surge in the reef. Depending on placement, I would think that's how you would get the random flow as it bounces off LR. Of course, having returns or other pumps could help too.

I won't comment on quality. I'm only now looking at picking up a SEIO...and I obviously haven't played with one of these controllers yet. But based on the idea, I think it's pretty good.

I just wish this was a better deal for smaller tanks.

In a big tank, you might have 2 controllers and the larger SEIOs...but then it might be worth the investment in Tunze at some point.

In a small tank like mine (30g cube), you certainly don't need 4 SEIOs and 2 controllers. I'd really like two 620s that could be controlled. But, I'm not willing to pay $200 for a controller that controls two $35 pumps. Plus, I'm not sure where I could hide what looks like a really big control box given my set-up location etc.

You guys with big tanks may have something here. I think I'm going to pick up a 620...and then use MJs (unmodded) on timers. If only there was a smaller AND cheaper alternative like this for smaller tanks. Maybe one day...

Agree 100% here. Theyre out of their own price range. For the smaller pumps, you're looking 6-7 times the cost of the pump, for the larger ones, you're now pushing it up into Tunze range.
 
If you put a Hydor flo deflector on a MJ1200 in a 30-gallon cube with some Seio 620s, you'd save a lot of money and get some very good quality flow.
 
it really doesn't make sense to have a controller cost 200 for only 2 30 to 80 dollar pumps. If it controlled 4 then maybe. this thing has to cost at the most 100 or it will be to little to late.
my .02
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7069408#post7069408 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Avi
If you put a Hydor flo deflector on a MJ1200 in a 30-gallon cube with some Seio 620s, you'd save a lot of money and get some very good quality flow.

Right...I won't take this far (controller thread), but I'm planning on one 620, 1 mj900 with hydor flow, and 1 mj900 regular with interval on/off times. I'll also have mag pushing the return from my sump.

This is where I'll start...we'll see where I end up...maybe SEIO will drop the controller price and I'll hop on the bandwagon later.
 
1) It doesn't control as many pumps as it should to make it cost efficient. I don't see the point of putting a $200 controller on $80 of pumps...?
2) No alternating? I'd rather see surges from both sides than that.

If it was $100, I'd buy it, definately. At $200? No way.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7067067#post7067067 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tang_man_montreal
The Seio controller is definately a product that has been on many people's wanted lists for a while.

It looks like an all around good product from what I can see so far.

I'm curious however, as to why they decided to have both pumps ramp up and down simultaneuosly, and not individually. A pulsing effect would have been nice as well.

Robin, is there any way to find out what steered their design this way?

Hi TMM,

I think as mentioned it had to do with the AC Electrical part of the unit.Like they had mentioned it was complicated to make it run properly.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7070051#post7070051 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JMBoehling
I've got a 8 year old 10" Naso Tang in front of my Seio 1500's for some wavemaking :)


Good one

:p I call that kaotic flow:p
 
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