Seio`s Multicontroller

[Yu L LI]

Hi Guys,

I know TAAM have been working and testing this controller for about two years. I saw this controller from model to model as they made the changes.

As far as retail price. It is all depending where you get it. I guess it will be ranging from $129 to $200.

There will be an other new pump Rio will be showing in Inter-Zoo Germany this May. The pump will be call POLARIO. Those of you if you are going to be there, must check it out. May be take some pictures and post it. This pump guarantee will bow your mind off. Approximately 10,000 gal per hour at around 55 watts.
Fully controllable and may link up to your PC to change the parameter with different setting. Schedule to be out by this fall.
Check it out.

Have fun.

 

[Yu L LI]

Double posted.

Sorry.

 

[ReefSalt]

Hi Yu L LI,

Well the cats out of the bag, They mentioned POLARIO at the show and it was going to be a little secret until interzoo.

I was told that the out put will be a dual SEIO like and be extremly small.

This is why I am picking up the SEIOS and Controller now and later the new POLARIO

 

[dhnguyen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7073272#post7073272 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Yu L LI
Hi Guys,

I know TAAM have been working and testing this controller for about two years. I saw this controller from model to model as they made the changes.

As far as retail price. It is all depending where you get it. I guess it will be ranging from $129 to $200.

There will be an other new pump Rio will be showing in Inter-Zoo Germany this May. The pump will be call POLARIO. Those of you if you are going to be there, must check it out. May be take some pictures and post it. This pump guarantee will bow your mind off. Approximately 10,000 gal per hour at around 55 watts.
Fully controllable and may link up to your PC to change the parameter with different setting. Schedule to be out by this fall.
Check it out.

Have fun.

Interesting... Any more data on this pump? Like how much are they planning to sell this for. Being fully controllable I can assume that it's a DC motor driven pump unlike the SEIO?

D.

 

[elephen]

10,000 gph @ 55w?

Did you accidently add an extra 0 to the end?

Seems odd to me, guess it may be possible.

 

[ReefSalt]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7074886#post7074886 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elephen
10,000 gph @ 55w?

Did you accidently add an extra 0 to the end?

Seems odd to me, guess it may be possible.

No its correct 10,000 gph,as for more details they will have more info and a actual model at the tradeshow in Germany working on a tank and hooked up to a computer.

 

[ratboy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7037288#post7037288 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by padams626
I'm quite sure that since TAAM (the company that makes Rio and SEIO) have a great opportunity to make tons of money off people who refuse to buy or cannot stomach paying for what Tunze's cost. I honestly believe they'll offer as much customer support possible, if that means sending out new pumps to replace faulty. We as customers need to give them an opportunity to help us, because of the money we shell out (which i haven't even come as close to some of you have, newbie here) we deserve that customer support.

I know I may get blasted for this one, but I just wanted to give my 2 cents.

TAAM's support is so good that I still have a box FULL of rio pumps that burned out/locked up/ killed tanks/etc that they refused to replace or warranty. I havent bought any seios but if its still the same company then my tanks and I say no thanks! Tunze is worth the extra money IMO.

 

[tekknoschtev]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7075696#post7075696 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ratboy
TAAM's support is so good that I still have a box FULL of rio pumps that burned out/locked up/ killed tanks/etc that they refused to replace or warranty. I havent bought any seios but if its still the same company then my tanks and I say no thanks! Tunze is worth the extra money IMO.

Um... this relates to the controller how? Seriously, if you're going to bash TAAM find one of the other threads that go on for pages with people who despise TAAM/Rios.

 

[Lordhelmet]

POLARIO huh, it's sounds to good to be true. it also sounds like it will cost $500. I'll just wait and see.

 

[anthworks]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7075745#post7075745 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tekknoschtev
Um... this relates to the controller how? Seriously, if you're going to bash TAAM find one of the other threads that go on for pages with people who despise TAAM/Rios.

It's probably going to be hard to police this thread to only people who have positive things to say about Rio/TAAM... There arenââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t too many of these people around.

 

[tekknoschtev]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7075828#post7075828 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by anthworks
It's probably going to be hard to police this thread to only people who have positive things to say about Rio/TAAM... There arenââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t too many of these people around.

I never said that they have to be positive posts, but saying that you have a box of Rio pumps sitting around really doesnt have anything to do with the controller.... not even close.

 

[elephen]

Seems weird, if it does 10,000gph it must look like a generator stuck to the glass in your tank.

Just strickes me as wierd since they don't have a 10,000gph Tunze Stream and they have always been the top player in the powerhead market.

I've been in the aquarium industry for 13 years and it just seems odd. I'm not saying its not possible but I'd like to see some hard facts on it. Maybe a business trip to the show is in call for!

 

[hahnmeister]

I dont think its a matter of 'could they' but 'should they'...who the heck has a use for a 10,000gph pump on their reef? I think Tunze has a hard enough finding people who could possibly need their 5000+gph 6200s. For 55 watts? Easily done. In the hitchhiker's MJ stream guide, I have mentioned how I took my Aquaclear 901 and modded it to have dual 2.3" props. This powerhead normally does 900-1000gph, but with the props, it is easily doing 6x that. If I actually got my hands on some 3" props...there is no telling what I might be able to move with the mere 60 watts that that 901 provides, as it seems to have plenty of torque left as is.

 

[elephen]

Yeah good point. 10,000gph you'd have to have a real large tank, on a 120g system 10,000gph even controllable would be like 20 hot tubs and you'd end up with 3/4 of your water on the floor.

 

[DrBDC]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7076637#post7076637 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elephen
Yeah good point. 10,000gph you'd have to have a real large tank, on a 120g system 10,000gph even controllable would be like 20 hot tubs and you'd end up with 3/4 of your water on the floor.

Not at all on a wide flow distribution. Many run 100X turnover with sps systems. I have a mix from softies up to sps and run 3600 gph on a 70 gallon display which is 51.4X turnover. 10,000gph is only 83.3X turnover on a 120.

 

[ReefSalt]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7077035#post7077035 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DrBDC
Not at all on a wide flow distribution. Many run 100X turnover with sps systems. I have a mix from softies up to sps and run 3600 gph on a 70 gallon display which is 51.4X turnover. 10,000gph is only 83.3X turnover on a 120.

Thats correct, I presently run 6000+ gph on a 120gl.

But the main thing is from what has been said this new pump will be fully controllable,so this probably also means variable flow control.

 

[dhnguyen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7077035#post7077035 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DrBDC
Not at all on a wide flow distribution. Many run 100X turnover with sps systems. I have a mix from softies up to sps and run 3600 gph on a 70 gallon display which is 51.4X turnover. 10,000gph is only 83.3X turnover on a 120.

But I don't think you really want all 10,000gph from one single source. It's one thing to have 2 pumps each outputing 5000gph but just one pump @ 10,000gph might a bit insane.


D.

 

[horkn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7069737#post7069737 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lordhelmet
it really doesn't make sense to have a controller cost 200 for only 2 30 to 80 dollar pumps. If it controlled 4 then maybe. this thing has to cost at the most 100 or it will be to little to late.
my .02

thats my logic as well. but what was the anticipated price point of the seios when they first were introduced?

hopefully 2x what they really cost. and if thats the case, we should be set.

i would prefer the controller to ramp each pump up and down separately, or even at least when one is 100%, the other is at 30%, but, we shall see.

 

[zapata41]

you guys may have 50x turnover, but what is the amount coming from any single source, maybe 1000-2000 gph. i find it hard to aim anything over 2000gph without blasting one thing while not having any flow on lots of others. now 10Kgph, that is just silly, it would have to have like a 4-6" opening on the pump to disperse the flow enough for it not to rip the flesh off everything in its path. but like said earlier, if you have a big enough tank, 10'x20' footprint, then i guess it might work.

and if taam can make this kind of bad pump, then why the heck arent they making one in the 3000gph and 6000gph ranges.

so what s the real ETA on the controllers.

Tim

 

[hahnmeister]

I agree with zap. 10,000 gph across the whole tank is one thing, but we arent talking about splitting the flow up on this pump to go in various directions and outlets. I have a friend with dual Hammerheads on his 220...but its split among 20 outlets and since many outlets are facing each other, my single 1000gph powerhead makes more flow. My uncle has a 1000gph pump on his 30g seahorse tank. The LFS guys were gawking when he told them that, but what they didnt consider is that that 1000gph is split up along the back wall across two spraybars with about 50 1/4" holes, and facing each other (spraybar on the top and bottom facing each other) so that the net effect is very little actual current to upset his slow-moving buddies. If that 1000gph was in a single outlet, even a 2 or 3" opening to reduce the velocity, that tank would be a whirlpool.

The only way I could see that 10,000gph pump being of much use would be if it had a 4-6" diameter outlet nozzle. Wide enough to decrease the velocity of the output, but keep the volume. Thats how a SEIO 620 has twice the volume output as a MJ1200 even though it feels like 1/2 as much when you hold your hand in front of it. But who wants a pump/powerhead with a 5-6" nozzle in their tank?