Serious Acro Problem

Thats not the type of dammage AEFW would cause. .. Red bugs either..If I have to guess, I would guess water quality issues and CA of 330 can definately be part of the issue.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7965903#post7965903 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rod Buehler
Thats not the type of dammage AEFW would cause. .. Red bugs either..If I have to guess, I would guess water quality issues and CA of 330 can definately be part of the issue.
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Based on those pictures, I have to agree with Rod here. Especially when I see what appears to be cyano on the colony.
 
mhurley - Yeah, I couldn't see the cyano until I posted the pic. That would lead me to believe that any part covered w/ cyano is probably dead, right?

mm949 - This colony was a recent addition

Highlander - Wow. I didn't think that your Ca+ was that high. Looks like I have to supplement Ca+, and quick! A sudden change from 420 to 330 seems like a good explanation for the damage that I've caused to this.
 
Ca you can bump pretty fast without harm because it does not impact other paramaters...alk you do have to go a lot slower since it impacts pH.

I've moved Ca 50+ points in a day with calcium chloride without issue.
Alk, I always slowly drip in baking/washing soda to fix that problem.
 
I don't know...I've had a few corals RTN, and they don't have skeletal damage like that. It looks like it has been chewed on. It looks like the damage my long spine urchin's where doing until I donated them to Deep Reef...any of your other SPS's look chewed on? Maybe it was nibbled on, then infection set in from water quality? I mean you can see the coralites just chewed all to heck on that thing....
 
What is so bad about a Alk of 11dKH? What symptoms are present on hard corals due to elevated Alk? Anyone know how this would damage the SPS on a molecular/cellular level?
 
11 is a good clip higher than natural. People have begun to report that colors improve with a lower alk. i.e. people that use Zeovit and people arguing that the same results can be had with steady water changes and a lower alk (in the 8 range).

I used to run mine 10 or 11, now I shoot for 8 or 9.
 
Hi ALK wouldn't dissolve the skeleton, if that's what your asking. At least I don't think it would :)


Patrick
 
You can raise your Ca in two days safely no problem. Get some Turbo Ca and add it to the tank, if you don't have any I can give it to you. Use the reef calculator for exact measurements hansnfrans.

I'm not sure what is really happening in hansnfrans tanks but I doubt that it is the acro flat worms. His Alk to Ca is so drastically off kilter, I would think that that would be the first problem.
 
I don't think that either your Ca or Alk are bad. A stony tank can be maintained with either of them that way but not both. To me the problem lies with the imbalance between your Ca, Alk, and Mag.

Just like everything else in life, there must be a balance. It is different in every ones individual tank but within set parameters and your Ca is on the low end and your Alk on the high (i.e. out of balance.

If you need a Phosphate test kit, I have a spare. Shoot me a PM and we can figure out how you can get it.

Jimmy
 
I am thinking that maybe it's time to switch to a salt mix w/ a higher Ca+ content. Right now I use IO which is known for having a Mg+ content that is disproportionatley higher than its Ca+ content. I would like to use a salt that has a higher Ca+ without sacraficing too much in the way of Mg+ content. Anyone have any recommendations here.

jjjimmy- Good point. I thought the Ca+ and Alk levels were acceptable, but I didn't really consider the balance. If my problem is in fact water quality, then I believe that you are correct here.

NewSchool04 - Thanks, I'll talk to ya more about the TurboCa+ when I stop by (hopefully Monday). Don't want to put that nice purple monti in danger :) .
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7966220#post7966220 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pk1
I don't know...I've had a few corals RTN, and they don't have skeletal damage like that. It looks like it has been chewed on. It looks like the damage my long spine urchin's where doing until I donated them to Deep Reef...any of your other SPS's look chewed on? Maybe it was nibbled on, then infection set in from water quality? I mean you can see the coralites just chewed all to heck on that thing....
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I agree wholeheartedly! It looks to me like it RTN'd and then your urchin started munching....or vice versa.

I suspect a change in chemistry to be the culprit for the RTN. I currently have some of Highlander's corals, and we have shared many frags in the past. I can say without hesitation that his water parameters have always been more "pristene" than mine have.

Jeff
 
I should have mentioned this before......

I have 2 other acros, a birdsnest, acropora nana, and monti cap from Highlander that all look fantastic (Bought 'em all at the same time). Only having problems w/ the Green Tenius. I thought Tenius' was one of the hardier species of Acropora???
 
You shocked that Tenius.And yes , I agree,That Urchin is very happy with a full belly. And yes it is hardey coral,but not that hardey.Always ask about water prameters when you buy...And you must ask about pedetors..IE Red bugs,AEFW,Monty eating nudies,Zoa eating nudies and the Acro spiders.Look at people,as you ask,Then listen to the inner vioce.It takes One second to get the problem and months to get rid of it. Highlander ......Your S---- dont stink....That is a beautiful tank. Mitch
 
Is this the same tenius that you got from me at the frag swap at Oceans floor? If so, if you loose it... let me know and i'd be happy to get you another piece.

Dennis
 
Hi Dennis,
This is actually a different Tenius. But I had mentioned earlier in the thread that there were two frags affected besides the small Green Tenius Colony in the pics here, and both of the affected frags, unfortunately, are the beautiful ones that I got from you at the frag swap. I greatly appreciate the offer, but hopefully I don't lose 'em. Well see I guess :) .
 
kerusso316 - The urchin was relocated to another tank about 2 days ago. I think that I may get rid of the urchin altogether because I am in the process of setting up an acrylic tank and don't want the urchin scratching the viewing panes. Plus he always knocks my stuff over.
 
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