Setting up a Reef in Vietnam

Nice coralline algae from the live rocks purchase.

Yeah V. It's really nice stuff, I was really surprised. I haven't seen Vietnamese rock outside the country. In the US it's mostly Fiji, Tonga, maybe Marshall Islands and Florida. This stuff rivals the best I've seen anywhere. At 50 cents a kilo it's a real bargain too.

I have seen these anemones Snowcarver. The problem is transportation, there is no fast way to get anywhere outside of SE Asia from here. Anywhere in Europe or the States your looking at about 26 hours transit minimum. There are three big collection facilities that I am aware of; at least one has a mariculture operation. I have had issues in the past with adding anything but carpet anemones too soo. I will wait a few months and see what happens.

RJ. Vietnam is indeed a beautiful country. Very freindly people also. Where I live in Go Vap Dist everyone still calls it Saigon. Most of the locals still wish things would have ended differently. As for diving, I went to Cam Ranh bay a couple years ago. It's Lionfish City huge Lions everywhere. Alot of the coral isn't the greatest now, but it's improving especially now that the people here realise that the environment is important to tourism. Con Dao island on the other hand is a fantastic place. It used to be a prison in the French days. Now it's mountainous islands covered in jungle and surrounded by coral reefs. I doubt many people have dove on alot of them. As far as collecting I'll most likely collectt some zoas, and snail etc. No need to collect coral since it's so available and inexpensive. I saw a couple neat looking macro algea that I want to try too.

FWIW I started rearranging some of the rock. It looks too crowded. I also started getting a little diatom bloom so I cut the light down to a minimum. At the same time I did a little cleanup. The water is still a little cloudy. I hate that but it's neseccary.

Playing with the camera a bit today. I'll try an post a FTS. Maybe some of you can critique my rock arranging skills? My photography skills require no critiqueing. They are terrible...
 
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A couple pics. Tank looks terrible after moving a bunch of rock around. Also keeping some of the light way down since I've got a little Diatom bloom going. I think I still need to get some rock out. Tha cave in the middle could be cool but not very natural. Plus I think crowding makes the tank look smaller. I'm trying to keep some hight while away from the front bsince the magnification really alters depth perception. Check out some of the pics and let me know if you guys have any ideas.
 
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Here is the rock on the left side. I think I can live with this. Disregard the corals. I only have a couple but they are closed up due to all the excitement and low light.
 
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From Dining room. I decided to cut down the top so the light will fit on top rather than inside. I think it will look alot better than the way it does now though. I will still leave it open for easy access and ventilation though.
 
Headed to work today. I will be offshore about a month. Just letting the tank go on reduced light cycle and a couple water changes will be made with NSW. I wish I knew onother reefer around here. I need to get rid of some rock. Could put it back in the sea I suppose...
 
There is a guy with the user name samessex on the zeovit forum who is also in Vietnam although I don't know if he's in HCMC.

I'm curious to know how much you can get crocea clams and maxi mini anemones locally in VN. Where is the NSW collected from? Is it from Vung Tau, formerly also known as Cape St. Jacques?
 
There is a guy with the user name samessex on the zeovit forum who is also in Vietnam although I don't know if he's in HCMC.

I'm curious to know how much you can get crocea clams and maxi mini anemones locally in VN. Where is the NSW collected from? Is it from Vung Tau, formerly also known as Cape St. Jacques?

You can get a med sized (3 to 5") Crocea for about $7 US for one with good color. Alot of stuff available locally is too big in my opinion. No room for growth. Most of the NSW available in the city comes from Nha Trang or Phan Thiet. A little north along the coast. Better water quality. Some stuff comes from Vung Tau but mostly when they deliver live product like lobsters and crabs. The majority comes from the other places I mentioned.

I wouldn't mind meeting other reefers. Most people I have seen around here have people set up a display for them and maintain it also. Not much regard for animal welfare in a lot of cases I'm afraid. This explains the popularity of the large colonies. Swap it out when it starts going downhill. As I had mentioned earlier, there are a few shops that cater to serious reefkeepers. I hope this trend continues..
 
My dad looked at the clams in my reef tanks and said he used to eat them back in Vietnam (back in the 70's).
 
That's a pretty neat looking aquarium stand.

Hi, thanks. I am still offshore. I have alot of work to do on the tank when I get back. I don't normally have much internet access out here. I will be traveling through Singapore. Does anyone know of a good Reef Supply shop there? I would like to pick up a few items.
 
I went to vietnam for the first time last summer to visit my mom's side of the family. It was a good experience, but the only problem was that nobody there knew any reef shops.
 
OK, I haven't posted in awhile since I have been offshore. I will have a few pics later, I make take a trip down to fish street and get a few pics there also. My wife has been looking after things while I was gone. All in all she hasn't done to bad. We are a little heavy on the fish though I suppose. I'm not so worried about bioload but I would like to save room for future livestock. The water has cleared up nicely and the rock is colouring up well. Here is a current livestock list.

2 Domino Damsels (They got huge when I was gone!)
4 Yellowtail Damsels
5 Clarks Anemonefish
1 Cleaner Wrasse

My wife picked out all the fish, the Wrasse and the Yellowtails were the first to go in. The Wrasse was not my choice and I thought he was a goner. Dissapeared for about a week then came out of hiding. Not sure what he has been eating but he is about 30% bigger than when I left two months ago! They are common here and the locals consider them hardy? Perhaps the local variety isn't as temperamental as some others?

I also expected alot more aggresion but that hasn't happened either. Some of the Clowns are big bruisers too. Everyone seems to have there own territory. Maybe because there is alot of rock. The tank is active though with these guys swimming around alot in the daytime but everyone seems happy. The Cleaner Wrasse also stays quite busy.

So far I mainly have LPS corals:

A Wall Hammer
2 Hammers
2 Frogspawns
2 Elegance
2 Gonioporas
2 Chili Corals and a Green Mushroom Rock

Most colonies you get here are huge, I had to give the Frogspawn and Torches quite a wide berth. One Frogspawn has sweepers about 10 inches long! I had some concerns about one of the Elegance early on as he was bleached almost white when my wife got him. He has coloured up nicely and really puffs up, not much tentacle extansion but the other Vietnamese Elegance seem to all be like this. The Torches are also looking good with good PE and tissue covering the base. I really like the Gonis also. One started out red but has developed a unique deep teal colour. He is also growing tissue over the spot where he was broke away from the rock.

I have had one casualty, a small Elegance that never did well. I wonder if maybe the tank was just too new, he was also bleached out when my wife got him at the same time as the other guy.

The Chili corals are also a surprise. I have had a couple of similiar corals in the past, Neptheas I believe. They just sort of withered away. The Chilis really come out at night with some terrific polyp extension. I keep them in a fairly sheltered cave and have just started feeding them a bit, my wife however has done nothing with them in the past two months. The pics she sent seem to show the same PE. She actually just put them in the sand and let them go since they would end up puffing up and falling down. I hope they do well. I like the NPS corals, I would like to get a few sun corals if things go OK. I may get a tableing Monti or something along those lines and keep him up top somewhere; however, SPS don't really fit the look I'm after. I really want to add a few Zoa colonies and some Gorgonians, this doesn't lend itself well to an SPS dominated tank.

My water parameters are as follows:

Temp 82 to 84 degrees F. I am actually shooting for keeping to temp a little high.

N1=0

N2=0

N3= <> 30ppm I will let it get a bit lower but I'm not shooting for a nutreint poor system. N3 was at about 50ppm when I got home the other day (my test kit requires immaculate timing and a fair amount of guesswork). A water change and sock cleaning brought it down some. I don't have any grazers or CUC at the moment and algae isn't an issue, I haven't measured for phosphate and may not bother, I don't think that the kits available to the average hobbyist are worth the expense.

My Calcium is a little high around 500 and DKH about 7.8. Still OK

PH around 7.8 to 8.4 depending on the time of day etc.

Not too bad. I have about 70kg of really premium rock. It was not cured when I got it. I cured it in the tank and did a couple 100% water changes with NSW (That was my cycle also). I had alot of detritus when I got home and I think that the curing process continued some while I was away. It has cleaned up nicely now about 5 months later. Very few hitchhikers nowthough. I reckon the fish got any pods or inverts that were introduced. I want to get a little sand also. I may use some of the coarse stuff I have seen around here. I haven't noticed any aragonite or anything like that. I will check on that a bit later.

Anyhow, thats about it till I upload some pics. I will add a few of the LFS also, probably a little different than most people are used too.

Neil
 
Oh, I forgot to mention the dreaded Sea Apple in the Livestock List. I didn't want to keep him but the wife was sure he would be fine. So far another model citizen. He set up camp next to the overflow a few months ago and hasn't moved since. He just extends his tentacles at feeding time. Don't know if he is gaining weight but definately not starving. Quite an interesting creature actually..
 
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