several dwarf angels in a tank?

[geaux xman]

anyone with a combination of dwarf angels in a tank? how does that work out?

i'm looking at perhaps a flame, bicolor, and yellow angelfish in a 180g.

 

[olemiss reb]

I tried a potters and a flame in a 150 and it was ww3. Maybe if you add them at the same time but the hassle of trying to remove them is not worth the risk imo.

 

[kirkaz]

I had Coral Beauty and Flame together for 2 plus years in my 240, they were buddies. Personally I would think that would work out fine in a tank that size, but you never know....By Yellow, do you mean Lemonpeel, or Herald's? If Lemonpeel, I would add the first 2 together first, and the Lemonpeel last, they can be pugnacious little guys.

 

[Toddrtrex]

All 3 of the following are in my 58, with the multicolored being the last introduced. Once in a while there is some very minor chasing, but I wouldn't even call it chasing, a slightly faster then normal swim in the direction of the other fish. It ends just as soon as it started -- think they are too lazy to do any real chasing. One thing that I think really helped is using an acclimation box -- kept the multicolored in there for a week first.

Was a little thin when I first got it, but is putting on weight.

The leader of the tank,

The passive one,

Part of the acclimation box I mentioned above,

 

[Angel*Fish]

Todd, when are you going to get those fish a bigger tank?

Geaux xman, do you have corals? The yellows may be a bit nipier. Bicolors are not beginner fish. You'd want to read up on them. It used to be really, really hard to find a healthy Herald's in some areas.

There are some prerequisites for combining angels
1) LOTS of well seasoned live rock stacked loosely with as much surface area as possible exposed. Preferably very little rock touching the back. It should be arranged for lots of hiding areas, swim throughs and visually blocking different areas of the tank. The thought is to allow the fish to avoid each others line of site if they so choose.

2) A willingness to remove a fish if need be which can be a big job.

3) If you're going to go to all that trouble, it makes sense that the fish should be the priority, not the corals.


For the ones you chose, I would add the bicolor first, then the Herald's followed by the flame. If I could, I'd give the bicolor about 3-4 weeks. Then possibly add the Herald and the flame about 3 days apart.

I personally wouldn't put a lemon peel in with the bicolor. That doesn't mean it couldn't work.

It helps if each fish you add is bigger than the existing angel(s).

 

[BFG]

I have 3 dwarf angels in a 120g tank, a hawaiian flame, a brazillian flameback and a pygmy yellowtail. The pygmy was the 1st to be added followed by multiple of brazillian flameback, which only 1 survived and the last was the hawaiian flame angel, which was larger amongst the 3 and was able to hold itself against the 1st 2 dwarf. Any other dwarf that I added after this 3 was doomed to fail and there were about 5 different species that I've tried to add in my tank. It seems that 3 were my maximum number in my tank.

 

[Sigmund]

I have 3 dwarf angels in my 150 gallon reef. The Venustus was the first in, then I addded a Multi_bar and a Golden Angel. The Venustus is top on the pecking order but is still very passive and will not chase or bite the other two.

Had the Venustus in with a Potters for about a year but the Potters was pretty aggressive, and bulied him a bit, although they coexisted pretty well. Moved the Potters to another tank so that I could have multiples in my 150.

Adding the two at once seemed to help with the intro and aggression as the Venustus couldn't just focus on one problem, seemed to confuse him enough to not really care after a day. If you can add them all at the same time even better, as long as your tank can handle the spike in bioload.

Here are some pics:

 

[ntropics]

I've had a bicolor, coral beauty and ferrugat for two years with absolutely no aggression between them. (between other genera is another story, but still very minimal).

Bruce

 

[Mathfreak71]

I have had a Potter's and a flame in my 75 for about 9 months. I used an acclimation box and even then there was some serious chasing when I added the flame. However, I removed the Potter's for a month and then returned. Since I have had no problems. Minor chasing like Todd described. I would love a third but I don't think it would work.

 

[Daniel Reef]

Todd, where did you get the acclimation box?

 

[Toddrtrex]

Todd, where did you get the acclimation box?

I picked it up here, and went with the "large" one.

To give you an idea, can see it on the left side of my 75,

 

[PiXieCath]

Here, I own a multifasciatus angel and a flameback without any issues. They were originally in my 125gal together for more than a years and they are now in my new 60gal for few months. When I've done the switch, I wasn't sure if it could be ok and thinking about getting ride of the flameback, but finally, everything is fine and they always swim together.

So...maybe it could work, and maybe not...it's a risk you have to take...

Toddrtrex: Your red carpet nem is incredible!) What a beauty!

 

[Daniel Reef]

Thanks Todd.

 

[Toddrtrex]

.....

Toddrtrex: Your red carpet nem is incredible!) What a beauty!

Thanks -- too bad there is a lot of reflection in that picture

Thanks Todd.

Sure thing. I tell ya, that is one of the best things I have bought for the tanks in a while.

 

[stunreefer]

Sure thing. I tell ya, that is one of the best things I have bought for the tanks in a while.

Love those acclimation boxes - mine are from the same place :thumbsup:

 

[solitude127]

I had a flame angel and a multi colored together in my 150. The multi color was in there first and then added a larger flame and they got along well.

 

[Sheol]

I've kept a Bicolor for a little under a year now. They are somewhat delicate, and often die in 2-3 weeks even if they are eating. Not trying to scare you ( I love mine!) but like Todd said (I think) not a beginner's fish. One positive thing about them is they are NOT aggressive like most Centropyge angels. Add this one first, and let it acclimate. If that last one is either a Herald or a Lemonpeel, they too can be sensitive.
It helps to let your tank mature for a few months before adding ANY of the dwarf angels. They graze on LR and like it full of algae and other stuff. Be aware that many LPS and clams WILL be picked on by at least two of your choices. Bicolors and Lemonpeels can hardly be considerd Reef Safe, but they do need a Reef Tank to thrive..

Just saying..
Matthew

 

[anbosu]

I currently have a coral beauty, flame, and potters in my 120 FOWLR. I was planning on sticking with just the cb and the flame, but I had an opportunity to grab an established, fairly large potters from someone taking down a tank and I couldn't pass it up. Other than some mild chasing when the potters was first introduced, I haven't had any problems. The potters is now the dominant fish in the tank.