Shark Tankmates

[stykthyn]

ok this is my last reply to this post then I will get off my box.

you have been doing this for 12 years great, after 12 years you have a good deal of experience, great. Then you put these fish into what a 45?? 12 years of experience should tell you that this is way to small even for a shortime since you do have a plan or so your sig says. this is behavior I would expect from a newb. have I overstocked a tank? sure. did I learn from it? sure. I sure as hell wouldnt do it now. after 12 years I would hope that you learned patience and to complete a bigger tank before you even got your first fish. then you post this

"I have
1 Brownbanded Catshark
1 Snowflake Eel
1 Orbiculate Batfish
1 Royal Blue Tang
1 Maroon Clown
1 Passer Angelfish

And they all get along great.

I am planning on also adding one or more of the following
Volitan Lion
Fuzzy Lion
Porkfish
Golden Jack
Humu Trigger
Shy Hamlet
Blue Spot Stingray
Porcupine Puffer

I just have to talk my fiancee into letting me get a bigger tank."

all this does is encourage people who dont know any better to go out and try to duplicate what you have done and ultimately set them up for failure. that is an awesome stock list and I would have killed for one like that when I first started. But like you said you have been doing this for 12 years, I have been doing it for 6. In that time I have learned patience and responsibility. I hope it all works out for you.

 

[John@JP]

Well, I am glad you are off of your 'box'

 

[John@JP]

Anyway back to the point of the thread... I have had luck with all of the fish that I have mentioned that I have now or that I want all living together and in my opinion they all work out. You might have to watch a few or more of them (triggers, puffers and angels) but i have seen it done

 

[college429]

I tend to believe the experts. If you read "Aquarium Sharks and Rays" by Scott W. Michaels you will see that he says that one or two small less active sharks such as bamboos and epilets will not only thrive, but often are so at home they will breed in tanks as small as 180 gallons.

Anyone one who wants to keep, or comment on keeping Sharks, should first read this book, so they don't put their foot in their mouth and recommend uneccessarily large tanks.

Also this book recommends appropriate fish and invertibrates to keep with sharks.

 

[jjcrim]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7174525#post7174525 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by John@JP
well they are all happy and healthy, eating fine and I have had no problems with disease. So I would appreciate a little less negativity.

Of course they are all ok... you already said they are just babies. So you've had them for a month or so, maybe even a couple months. Like I said, nice work. You can claim this is ok until you're blue in the face but it just shows that you don't know as much as you think about this hobby.

Also, as I said previously, you're thinking about a huma huma or porcupine puffer with that shark?? Remind me to stay away from the LFS you work at.

 

[Lord Voldemort]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7167411#post7167411 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by John@JP
I have
1 Brownbanded Catshark
1 Snowflake Eel
1 Orbiculate Batfish
1 Royal Blue Tang
1 Maroon Clown
1 Passer Angelfish

And they all get along great.

I am planning on also adding one or more of the following
Volitan Lion
Fuzzy Lion
Porkfish
Golden Jack
Humu Trigger
Shy Hamlet
Blue Spot Stingray
Porcupine Puffer

I just have to talk my fiancee into letting me get a bigger tank

Are you referring to the ribbontail blue-spotted stingray or the normal one? Ribbontail is much less hardy.

 

[mitzel]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7175842#post7175842 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lord Voldemort
Are you referring to the ribbontail blue-spotted stingray or the normal one? Ribbontail is much less hardy.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7174740#post7174740 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by John@JP
Anyway back to the point of the thread... I have had luck with all of the fish that I have mentioned that I have now or that I want all living together and in my opinion they all work out. You might have to watch a few or more of them (triggers, puffers and angels) but i have seen it done

And what we have here are two people with absolutely no clue what they are talking about . As you can see both seam to think they know what they are talking about . But one has never kept salt water fish at all let alone sharks . and his advice is based on other peoples posts and now he can also claim to have read a book . To bad experiance is some thing you gain from actually handeling fish . And well the other is just your average LFS employe who couldn't give good solid advice if he tried too , Anybody that has delt with triggers of any kind or pork fish knows that they are going to nip at slow moving bottom dwellers .This "experts " advice is to watch them . Any body with trigger experiance knows how fast they can move and they can snap and take out a sharks eye faster then you can even registar they are doing it . So Unless you want to spend your hard earned money to loose fish I would stay away from the advice of a 12 year old kid with no experince in SW and a lfs "expert " with a tank over stocked with just one of the five fish he claimes are happy and healthy

:wildone:

 

[Lord Voldemort]

Well there are two types of "blue spotted stingrays" Dasyatis Kuhlii and Taeniura lymma and are two different species but are sometimes referred to as the same thing.

 

[John@JP]

Well that is your advice and i appreciate it. And as far as the advice that i give at work, I am more of a do as i say dont do as i do type of guy. I done alot of things i would never tell a customer to try without taking a risk... Like my current tank. I have also done things like raise piranhas with south american cichlids and even bigger community type fish. I wouldnt reccomend this to a customer but if you ask my opinion I would say it could be done. And have you ever tried putting a small humu trigger or porcupine puffer with a decent sized catshark? I know of the potential risks I have 'delt' with these fish for many years.

 

[John@JP]

Are you referring to the ribbontail blue-spotted stingray or the normal one? Ribbontail is much less hardy.

The Normal one. It will have to wait until I upgrade and It will have to wait untill I can get one it at work that does well

 

[Pilot Fish]

Thanks Mitzel. These clowns are exactly why there shouldn't be a "shark info category" on this site. Time after time I see threads like this where the only thing that can come from them is the spreading of bad news.
One guy dreams up a whish list of sharks and dolphins and killer whales, and mythical mermaids that he can squeeze into his magical "150 gal rubbermaid stock tank or indoor pond (I can't believe people do that in their homes its soo cheeezzy) -basically what they think is their own personal 29 gal. home ocean" and then all the other experts chime in and by the end of it they are debating who's more rediculosly clueless. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE GOOD RELIABLE EXPERIENCE HANDLING THESE OR ANY ANIMALS DON"T POST BS INFO ON WHAT YOU LEARNED FROM THE FEW OTHER POSTS THAT YOU READ FROM THE OTHER CLUELESS PEOPLE ON THIS SITE.
I became a member of this site to learn from the experiences of other dedicated hobbyists , and i would like to keep it that way.
Thats just my humble thoughts.

 

[mitzel]

Just doing my part to keep it real .

 

[jjcrim]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7178883#post7178883 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by John@JP
Well that is your advice and i appreciate it. And as far as the advice that i give at work, I am more of a do as i say dont do as i do type of guy. I done alot of things i would never tell a customer to try without taking a risk... Like my current tank. I have also done things like raise piranhas with south american cichlids and even bigger community type fish. I wouldnt reccomend this to a customer but if you ask my opinion I would say it could be done. And have you ever tried putting a small humu trigger or porcupine puffer with a decent sized catshark? I know of the potential risks I have 'delt' with these fish for many years.

This is the most ignorant person I've ever seen posting about their fish. Can anyone guess why his fish are all babies? Hmmm, whatever could have happened to his tank before he started this nano shark tank? He claims to know the potential risks because he is so knowledgeable but ignores them. The above person clearly just has no regards for standards of care for any species and it's a shame he works at a lfs. This is the type of person that declares success when he keeps fish alive for a couple weeks or so. In short... he's either an idiot or simply buys anything on a whim and hopes it works out... and it won't.

I'm not writing this to debate with a moron... just wanted to give a few words of advice to anyone else who reads this.

 

[John@JP]

Actually my last tank was about 10 years ago. And i had all of the same fish in it. I took it down when I joined the military.