Show your pics of healthy reefs WITH redbugs.
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Reefghoul
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From my understanding, if the numbers are small enough (relative to the size of the aquarium) you can have red bugs and not have die off... They are not like monti eating nudis. Think about them as like mosquitoes, if some get you, you will not die and you could live with them forever, however I am sure if you had thousands attack you on a constant daily basis, you may not make it. Red bugs are the same way, they can be there and not kill anything in the tank if their numbers are small enough however, when their numbers get big that is when things start to die.
As for seeing them eating good healthy tissue, they do...I would use the google tool on here and try to find some threads on red bugs you will find pictures of what they do to acropora...
glassbox-design
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there are many great tanks out there with red bugs, but from what i've seen they also have red bug predators to keep the numbers under control...
i see in that last picture a yellow wrasse.
read bornemans site, it's a great write up
i see in that last picture a yellow wrasse.
read bornemans site, it's a great write up
Shawnts106
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This is insane!...
Red Bugs are NOT A DEBATABLE PEST ... they are BAD NEWS Bottom LINE!
GET RID OF THEM, or KEEP THEM TO YOURSELF!
This is just stupid to be even talking about!
Red Bugs are NOT A DEBATABLE PEST ... they are BAD NEWS Bottom LINE!
GET RID OF THEM, or KEEP THEM TO YOURSELF!
This is just stupid to be even talking about!
Shawnts106
New member
This is insane!...
Red Bugs are NOT A DEBATABLE PEST ... they are BAD NEWS Bottom LINE!
GET RID OF THEM, or KEEP THEM TO YOURSELF!
This is just stupid to be even talking about!
Red Bugs are NOT A DEBATABLE PEST ... they are BAD NEWS Bottom LINE!
GET RID OF THEM, or KEEP THEM TO YOURSELF!
This is just stupid to be even talking about!
Dog boy Dave
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My tank has had acros from around 2002. I have treated for red bugs three or four times over the years. I have no doubt that my corals do better with out the bugs. Although, I seldom lost mature corals to the bugs I definitely saw a difference with small frag survival.
As for images of tanks thriving with pests, we should all remember that things happen slow in a large SPS tank. For instance. The corals on the front page of my web page are ate up with flatworms. These images were taken and posted months before I figured out the cause of some of the "issues" (Receding tissue in the shade for instance. ) It was also months before I started loosing corals. The only reason I figured out the tank was infested much earlier before I even knew I had a problem is I looked at the early images a year or so after I lived through the entire event and looked back and recognized them.
I am always amazed that treating for red bugs with Interceptor is still debated.
Happy Reefing
Dave
As for images of tanks thriving with pests, we should all remember that things happen slow in a large SPS tank. For instance. The corals on the front page of my web page are ate up with flatworms. These images were taken and posted months before I figured out the cause of some of the "issues" (Receding tissue in the shade for instance. ) It was also months before I started loosing corals. The only reason I figured out the tank was infested much earlier before I even knew I had a problem is I looked at the early images a year or so after I lived through the entire event and looked back and recognized them.
I am always amazed that treating for red bugs with Interceptor is still debated.
Happy Reefing
Dave
I'm just trying to figure out how people are getting interceptor if it requires a prescription from a vet? Are a lot of places just selling this stuff illegally? Or are internet sites wrong when they say prescription req'd? Or do people just not care that it's illegal and order it anyway?
marineduud
Premium Member
Most people such as myself have a vet that takes care of there dogs or cats which are on the med and if you take a copy of the original article that started all of the RED BUD problem they can treat it as there patient.
JSeymour
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Great article. Thank you.
My biggest concern was that someone knowledgable had a coral die, noticed rbs, blamed the rbs, and a rb scare started, when perhaps they were merely mutual or commensal symbiants. I try not to assume anything. I just wanted someone to prove they are parasites.
The red bug craze didn't start until about 2001, why did no one have problems before? According to Borneman's article, they are very wide spread in the wild, I doubt they appeared for the first time in captivity in 2001.
After searching google, altavista, msn, and others, I have yet to find a picture or video of a rb eating/damaging healthy coral tissue, or even dead/dying coral tissue. I'm not saying they aren't, because I don't know. Hence, the post. I know many of you have excellent camera skills, excellent cameras, and rb. Let's see some media and finalized it once and for all.
Thank you to those who actually helped.
The slimer does have extraordinary pe, the pic obviously isn't a close up
(taken ~20 feet away and resized for posting). You can't see the polyps on the blue milli directly above the T. squamosa, but it has the typical milli look too.
MarineGirl411
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Hey,
That's kind of freaky. I didn't know that tank had red bugs. I'll have to look next time I go in. I can say though, that tank is beautiful. Green Slimer does look like a Mille. It's beautiful and huge! The owner is really nice too. Interesting article.
That's kind of freaky. I didn't know that tank had red bugs. I'll have to look next time I go in. I can say though, that tank is beautiful. Green Slimer does look like a Mille. It's beautiful and huge! The owner is really nice too. Interesting article.
JSeymour
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I'm not saying Borneman isn't reputable(never heard of him), but one reputable text source is not the way to determine whether something is true or not. In his article, he states that him and Dr. Jim Thomas, who is "a specialist in tropical and coral reef copepods", thought the red end was the "butt". Here's a direct quote, "'So, you think the red end is the head or the butt?' I chuckled and said I thought it was the butt. He concurred." I don't know about you, but the red end looks like the head to me.
Then he states, "They are mostly stationary on an area of coral for periods of time where they appear to be digging into the coral tissue. At some points, they are almost buried head first into the tissue, like a tick, but still actively digging."
So they are actually digging butt-first? Doesn't sound like feeding behavior to me. His videos and picture do not show acropora tissue being eaten. The most you can say based on them is rb hang out on acropora.
