SI or Onyx Percs?

[jt_milstead]

They probably aren't Black Photons then..... unless by any chance you have somebody in Northern California that owns a breeding pair and rears the fry?

EDIT: I just looked up "Sanjay Black Photon Clownfish" on Google Images, and they look scary close to what I have!

I think we all agree they look similar, but i dont think the body shape is correct...

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

I think we all agree they look similar, but i dont think the body shape is correct...

On the female it is I think.

My female...

Black Photon...

Black Photon...

Are Sanjay's Black Photons Percula or Ocellaris?

 

[Sanjay]

I stopped breeding the original black photons almost 2 years ago. So time wise you are right these are not the black photons. There is a guy in somewhere in California who has a pair of the original black photons spawning, but this was recent and he is not raising them.

The black photons are hybrids of the Black Ocellaris and Onyx Perc.

sanjay.

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

Thank you. I guess these are just some Ocellaris variation then.

 

[Toddrtrex]

Thank you. I guess these are just some Ocellaris variation then.

Yes, as was stated about 30 posts up.

 

[Top Water]

I don't get into the Hype thing. They are just clownfish to me . A 10 dollar clown does what a 75.00 clown does . The kids still call them all Nemo.

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

I don't get into the Hype thing. They are just clownfish to me . A 10 dollar clown does what a 75.00 clown does . The kids still call them all Nemo.

I don't call them all nemo.
Picasso clownfish or Onyx clownfish are a lot prettier than a regular orange Ocellaris to me. Sure, they all do the same stuff, but some look different than others which make them cooler to people.

 

[jt_milstead]

Your still comparing Percula, and Ocellaris. Onyx, and Picassos are both Percula.

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

Your still comparing Percula, and Ocellaris. Onyx, and Picassos are both Percula.

Yes but he said clownfish, not Ocellaris clownfish. And I always had thought that Picassos were Ocellaris, but I just now looked at pictures on Google and their irises were orange.

 

[Toddrtrex]

But the way you worded it.....

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

But the way you worded it.....

Yes now that I read it I see how it was badly worded.

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

They have coloration so close to an Onyx, but their eyes say Ocellaris. They aren't very big and they still have a lot of growing to do... I think I'll give them six months to a year and bring up this discussion again because they may not be fully developed right now.
I'm going to set up a new tank in three months and if I decide to move them into the new tank then it should speed up their growth since they'd be in a larger tank. I don't care what they are because they are very beautiful fish and I really like them, but I really want to know more about what they are. Here's a picture of the female now to compare if I decide to bring up this topic again...

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

EDIT: Wait NVM forget this post...

 

[bues0022]

h and I really like them, but I really want to know more about what they are.

Many have already told you what you have. They are ocellaris. Are you hoping that someone will tell you that you actually have a ultra, super, rare cross-breed? B&W Ocellaris aren't always black and white. They develop more black as they mature - hence if yours are young, a possible explanation behind the orange you are seeing.

Don't get down for having common fish though, they are still good-looking.

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

Don't get down for having common fish though, they are still good-looking.

Well if they turn out to be B&W then I would sell them because I already have a pair of B&W, but I honestly don't believe they are. Time will tell what they are and when it does I'll post back here so everyone can see.

 

[jt_milstead]

Well if they turn out to be B&W then I would sell them because I already have a pair of B&W, but I honestly don't believe they are. Time will tell what they are and when it does I'll post back here so everyone can see.

This post again......
They are not Percula, so they are not Onyx.

 

[bues0022]

Well if they turn out to be B&W then I would sell them because I already have a pair of B&W, but I honestly don't believe they are. Time will tell what they are and when it does I'll post back here so everyone can see.

Maybe you need to remember what some others have said:

Neither.....You have Ocellaris Clownfish

Like the person above though, from the pics you posted, I would say they are ocellaris.

Would like to see some better/closer pictures -- from those 2 pictures they sure look like O's to me.

Occ's

I believe you posted this question a few months ago, and I am going to stand by my answer and say they are ocellaris. The ring around the eye is one clue, plus, I dont know how to explain it, but after looking at probably thousands of ocellaris clowns throught many years, they just have that ocellaris look to them.

Sure looks like the C-Quest Wild type Ocellaris var.

Black and White ocellaris aka darwin ocellaris ...... With lots of orange

I've worked in the fish trade for years, and have seen more variations of clowns then most. There is no doubt they are a variation of ocellaris.If you purchased them from a LFS, chances are a local breeder dropped them off and the LFS has no true idea what they really are. In your first post your talking about the fishes color variation, but in fact they can change and develop color through out their life. To answer your question completely, they are neither SI or Onyx, the best answer I can give you to the true species would be a hybrid between a black and orange ocellaris.

And even what you said a few days ago:

Thank you. I guess these are just some Ocellaris variation then.

Yes, you have a pair of Black and White Ocellaris. If by saying “Time will tell what they are” to mean, “time will show the full coloration” then I agree with you. However, time will not change the species of your fish. If you are concerned with having two pairs of the same species, then yes, sell these (or your other pair). These may have a different color variant than your other B/W pair though...FWIW

 

[Fishboy42]

Hi WaffleWaffle22. The fish you have there are mature examples of a selectively-bred variety of ocellaris commonly marketed from the breeder as "SA Fancy" Amphiprion ocellaris clownfish (SA=Sustainable Aquatics, a fish hatchery in East Tennessee). As far as I know, they do not have any black ocellaris in their "family tree" but are simply a selected-for color pattern in what was once a "normal" orange ocellaris. The "Mocha" clown available from the same breeder (a cross between the black and orange variants of ocellaris) have a dramatically different appearance-a single-color body with a "rusty" brown/orange color. Hope this helps!

Matt

 

[WaffleWalffle22]

Hi WaffleWaffle22. The fish you have there are mature examples of a selectively-bred variety of ocellaris commonly marketed from the breeder as "SA Fancy" Amphiprion ocellaris clownfish (SA=Sustainable Aquatics, a fish hatchery in East Tennessee). As far as I know, they do not have any black ocellaris in their "family tree" but are simply a selected-for color pattern in what was once a "normal" orange ocellaris. The "Mocha" clown available from the same breeder (a cross between the black and orange variants of ocellaris) have a dramatically different appearance-a single-color body with a "rusty" brown/orange color. Hope this helps!

Matt

Thank you for clarifying.
BTW to Bues0022 and jt_milstead, I never said they were Perculas in that post. I know they are Ocellaris, but I just didn't know what type.

 

[phender]

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