Sick Fuzzy - need advice

Keep in mind that the salinity in your hospital tank is now lower than your DT. They can go down rapidly, but that can't go back up that fast.
 
How many pieces of silversides do you feed him. A couple larger pieces or a few smaller? It's not related to pooping, but food CAN rot in their stomachs.

Our scorps get PE everyday when we feed the anthias trio.
 
I only feed two to three 1/4 inch pieces. But I was feeding the tank about a 1/2 inch square of jumbo mysis everyday and they were all eating it. What would you do if there is something rotting in his stomach?

I put some binder in the water today as a safety measure. Oh -- he also shed while in the QT. I have another video that shows him in the DT and you can actually see more of his body condition in that video. Shall I upload that one?
 
The jumbo mysis, if you have not used it, is by Hikari and it is bigger than PE mysis. My big reef fishies love it too.
 
Mental1 said:
Here's the video of him in the DT. Again -- I need to get better at using the flip camera!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaADjLPl50k
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well IME i have a fuzzy that looks similar to yours colorwise.

mine was harassed by another lion for 2 days and almost died. mine does the same actions as yours. hides. mine is not affraid of humans at all. comes and greets me without fail everytime. its funny in the vid you could tell he/she was ****ed cause of the spines on top alternating lol. i love that on them its easy for me to tell when they are mad. lol.

on a serious not my fuzzies turn their dark colors when they are really mad or feeding. like when i clean the glass with the mag float. or when i do a water change. I dont recall you mentioning that you put the fuzzy through QT.

i see that you have many large tanks. so this is just a suggestion cause i have had a couple bouts with ich and i hate it with a passion now. i would put him through qt anyways. just in case. you never know. better be safe than sorry.

ur fu's look great by the way. i have the one i got from DD in QT with my cockatoo right now. he is a beast. i just have to get him to eat frozen lol.

HTH
 
Thanks Matt -- he's usually out and begging -- he just started hiding because he did not like the red light on the flip camera I think. I have ich in the tanks but he's not showing any spots. I have UV on 24/7 but it is not in-line. He's been in the same tank with the fus for 18 months so I there is no harassment -- they have always been fine. Thanks -- yeah the fus are happy!

I am not sure what to do so I guess I will leave him be. He hasn't eaten for a week now but I will keep with Renee's protocol.
 
Mental1 said:
Stumped -- in most cases the lympho shows up differently -- it usually starts on the fins and it is not usually one big lump. That's what I have read about it anyway. I guess it could just be a weird presentation of the disease but then why would the white fuzzy stuff go away in prozi and just leave a lump behind? It's a weird thing for sure.
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I'm not an expert on lympho at all, but FWIW I've seen tangs displaying symptoms of what your clown had (large white growth(s)) on the body at the Maui Ocean Center a year back and I was told that it was lympho.

I have no idea why prazi had any effect on it at all. It's possible an opportunistic parasite targeted the same area because of the damage the virus had done there. I really have no idea, just that it's far more likely to be something known that displays similar symptoms (like lympho) than something completely unknown.
 
Temp is down to 75 degrees and salinity is 1.020. Unfortunately could not get ghosties but will try a mollie when I get home from work today.
 
A Molly will do. Our Volitans stopped eating for a month. We bought a couple of Mollies and he slurped them down in seconds. He immediately went back to eating frozen. I did offer him a Molly the week before and he didn't go for it. The only difference was I had starting dosing vitamin C. Not saying the vitamin C did it.... just saying.

I had fish that has lympho.... it didn't look like that.

Please please please know that I have no solutions, just experiences to share. Fish have died in my care as well.

The only thing that makes me nervous is the uncycled tank. Especially a hypo, which creates a more unstable environment. I have uncycled tanks all the time, but in a blink of an eye, things can go wrong the moment to let down your guard. I had one fish in an uncycled hypo when my dog died ay my feet.... literally. I reacted too slowly. The fish died. It's something Greg and I haven't talked about to this day because it was pure human error and a fish we'll never be able to replace. It's like, "God he was beautiful" "Let's not talk about it". You have no idea how bad I regret going to bed that morning.
 
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Renee,

Is there any benefit to gut loading the mollies to be fed with vitamin C? If the mollies are eating fine could you just blast them with vitamin enriched foods before feeding? Even immediately before feeding?

Or even medications if the situation called for it?

Just wondering...hope the lion eats today!
 
Yes! You won't be able to get large enough volumes of vitamin C into a molly to really be a good dose. But every but helps. I've put it in all of my tanks. One thing I do to give it orally is, I dry ghost shrimp and then inject it under the shell. It then re-hydrates with the Vitamin C. None were so quick to eat a ghost that was soaked in it. They all take it when injected. I tear off the rosters. Those things are SHARP when they are dried!

There are tons of great journals out there on nutrition and fish. Mainly the info comes from the aquaculture sector. They really cover nutrition, immunity, stress, disease.... I've been lucky to have a nice little library.
 
Renee -- I know the uncycled tank is risky but I am now doing water changes twice a day. It is also a 29g tank not a 20 so it is a bit bigger than I first thought. I don't know what else to do. The only other thing I could do is figure out how to section off the mollie tank and put him in there. But it isn't hypo... Unless I trade tanks and put the mollies in the 29g tank and put him in that tank. It is a 35g tank but it has a huge eheim canister filter on it and a skimmer... and it's been up and running for quite a while. Hmmm.

Please know that I appreciate your help tremendously and your encouragement is priceless. Sometimes I panic and when I'm sitting alone with no one to help, or look, or even care ... well it's just a tough hobby and lonely sometimes. Everyone else in my house is like -- so it's a fish. Things die all the time in your tanks, that's the way it is. Sigh.

Anyway -- my mollies are fed premium flake and NLS pellets every day. They are healthy and fat.
 
Mental1 said:
Renee -- I know the uncycled tank is risky but I am now doing water changes twice a day. It is also a 29g tank not a 20 so it is a bit bigger than I first thought. I don't know what else to do. The only other thing I could do is figure out how to section off the mollie tank and put him in there. But it isn't hypo... Unless I trade tanks and put the mollies in the 29g tank and put him in that tank. It is a 35g tank but it has a huge eheim canister filter on it and a skimmer... and it's been up and running for quite a while. Hmmm.

Please know that I appreciate your help tremendously and your encouragement is priceless. Sometimes I panic and when I'm sitting alone with no one to help, or look, or even care ... well it's just a tough hobby and lonely sometimes. Everyone else in my house is like -- so it's a fish. Things die all the time in your tanks, that's the way it is. Sigh.

Anyway -- my mollies are fed premium flake and NLS pellets every day. They are healthy and fat.
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i did the same thing with a fish i had gotten off of LA DD. i put him in an unsycled QT 14BC.

changed the water all the time!!!!!!!!!!! felt like i never had enough :lmao:

once i mad it passed the fist 2 weeks the bacteria had caught up. everytime i did a water change i added "bottled bactaeria" according to the bottle.

now i have no amonia and the colors on the fish are outstanding. the early parts of qt are the hardest.

IMO moving him/her from tank to tank to tank etc is not good. my fish hate getting moved and im sure thats true with most
 
So true Matt - they hate being caught. Maybe they have nightmares about being pulled from the ocean. And like I said -- he's not eating. There's no food nor poop in the tank. His presence is the only thing cycling the tank. I do think the prozipro might be gone but it makes me nervous to add bacteria in as it might cause an ammonia spike if the prozi is still there and kills the bacteria! Maybe I will add some in a few days -- it's stuff I got from the Fishy Pharmacy. Until then I will keep measuring, pacing, water changing, pacing ....:worried2: :sad1:
 
He ate a small mollie last night without hesitation. Breathing I would say is normal. Water is 74.5 degrees and salinity is 1.19. Seems like we have gotten him over the worst part. I removed the carbon from the filter so I think the prozipro is effectively out. I added an ammonia binder to the filter.
 
Well, that's good news. We may not figure out what happened, but when he's back on frozen, if everything looked good, I would raise the salinity back up and put him back.

What's that clown doing? Any change in the lesion?


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