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[boca rat]

I know what you are going through. Had to do the same earlier this year. It's not fun at all. Hope your fish pull through!

Thanks. Was going well until I got down to the last of the rock and still hadn't found the Falco. So pulled it ALL, still no fish. In the end I emptied every bucket of rock and finally found it in the bottom of the last but one......!!! Mad but happy.....) But weighed my rock at the same time so now I know....

All rock back in now, all remaining fish in QT tank. Will finish refilling the DT later tonite or tomorrow morning. Off to see Kathleen Madigan now, hopefully will smile for the first time today.....

 

[MitchSutherland]

You start treating yet???

 

[boca rat]

Oh, yes. Started around 3pm or so yesterday, had all fish out and in QT by about 5pm. QT has a CPR bak pak 2 skimmer running. Found my HOB was dead, and can't findthe other one...( So picking up a friends shortly.

He also has a reef octopus OCTX-160int. If I put this on a platform I could run it in the QT, what do you guys think of that?

Will test for Ammonia, NO2 and NO3 next


Thanks for all the advice, hopefully I stopped this in it's tracks.

 

[Mrscribbled]

Copper will give a false ammonia reading. Natrates do not need testing. Seachem ammonia alert badges work well.

 

[Rea17]

The quarantine tank doesn't need a skimmer, just a hob filter with filter floss will do. The skimmer will remove medications.

 

[snorvich]

Good advice from folks above. Sadly treatment for velvet, while indicated, and is the best possible thing to do right now, will not yield 100% results as the parasite (almost certainly velvet) has gone pretty far. Just do the best you can do. Good luck! I am guessing but . . . it sounds as if your friend was running a non-therapeutic dose of copper in his tank. This will mask velvet which can than spring up virulently on any fish when taken out of that system.

 

[boca rat]

Thoughts on filtration? I have an old wet/dry and an overflow so could setup this as filtration although no worthy bioballs to start with. But am nervous about going 8-12 weeks with a HOB skimmer and filter.

 

[Mrscribbled]

As mentioned earlier, bio spira, sponge filter or HOB is all that's needed.

 

[MitchSutherland]

Scribble idk if biospira and a hang on the back is enough look at all thats going in the tank.

6" Majestic angel
Med. Yellow tang
Med. Purple tang
Skunk clown
12" Engineer goby
Black widow blenny
Falco hawk
Flame hawk
Flame tail blenny
Banggai

i would be nervous too Boca

 

[Mrscribbled]

It will do way more than any skimmer on this planet as far as ammonia control. Put two HOB filters in if your concerned. Trust me, I've been using bio spira religiously on QT's for three years. It won't be an issue. Feed very lightly at first.

 

[Deinonych]

+1 on Bio-spira. It really works well to establish a bio-filter in QT.

 

[MitchSutherland]

I am not saying a skimmer. A seeded sponge from a lfs or something. With biospira

 

[snorvich]

I am not saying a skimmer. A seeded sponge from a lfs or something. With biospira

Well BIO-Spira Makes Your Marine Aquarium Fish-Safe Instantly
since it provides live bacteria start working immediately to provide a safe and healthy environment for your fish without the long wait. As such you seem a bit confused in your previous recommendations and by saying you need a seeded sponge from your LFS.

 

[snorvich]

It will do way more than any skimmer on this planet as far as ammonia control. Put two HOB filters in if your concerned. Trust me, I've been using bio spira religiously on QT's for three years. It won't be an issue. Feed very lightly at first.

As you note, a skimmer does not provide any type of ammonia control, and with some treatments it would be highly undesirable. BIO-Spira Makes Your Marine Aquarium Fish-Safe Instantly since the live bacteria start working immediately to provide a safe and healthy environment for your fish without the long wait.

 

[MitchSutherland]

I am not confused. I am just a little weary about biospira thats all. I believe that it does work but would you for sure, without any doubt in your mind think that it will be able to handle a new tank setup and all the livestock that he has? He cant use prime so ANY ammona buildup would cause problems. So adding a seeded sponge wouldnt hurt anything. I would rather over do it than under do it. He has some nice live stock why take the risk?

 

[MitchSutherland]

I agree with scribble in feeding lightly. Thats a must.

 

[Mrscribbled]

I am not confused. I am just a little weary about biospira thats all. I believe that it does work but would you for sure, without any doubt in your mind think that it will be able to handle a new tank setup and all the livestock that he has? He cant use prime so ANY ammona buildup would cause problems. So adding a seeded sponge wouldnt hurt anything. I would rather over do it than under do it. He has some nice live stock why take the risk?

Yes. It will work. I have stocked emergency QT's heavier than this, using only this product and new sponge filters.

 

[MitchSutherland]

hey trust scribble if he uses and says it works than i believe him.

 

[boca rat]

So after a day or so of relative calm, I walk out to feed this evening and......purple tang dead on the floor. Jumper. Great.

And then I see some kind of fin rot on the majestic, see pic here. Any idea if this is a Velvet related issue? Fish is not really eating much and pretty listless. Starting to understand folks who give up and walk away from this.....

So current stock is:

6" Majestic angel
Med. Yellow tang
Black widow blenny
Falco hawk
Flame hawk
Flame tail blenny
Banggai

 

[boca rat]

Update. My 55QT has settled down and remainig fish all look fine. I have been testing copper from day 4 or so and it seems steady at 0.8. I now plan on water chaning this to reduce down the amount of copper over the next few weeks. Or better to do get it out as soon as possible?

My DT has been fish free and will stay that way until end of Feb. Can't go through this again....