Skimmer for 600g system

I was thinking of one of those...that's why I'm trying to figure out what is meant by "heavy" bioload or how to compare skimmers across specs in a quantifiable manner. I don't even know what kind of bioload a shark makes...is it just "a lot"? :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10136470#post10136470 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kodyboy
http://www.protein-skimmer.com/shop...d=45504&merchantid=446996&shop=itemdetail.asp

I would think the above would work for 600 gallons, if not Orca can make you whatever you want.

http://www.reefconcepts.com/products/skimmers/800series/
another option would be nice becket, like the above, requires a big pump, but boy do these work! The 830 or 848 would work well.
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Never heard of Orca before but they look pretty goooood. Ever used one??
 
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Re: Re: Skimmer for 600g system

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10136720#post10136720 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DeltecRules
I would go with this one if you are going to skim the hell out of your SPS tank
http://deltecusa.us/proteinskimmers/ap1003.php
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Yea, but then the pump breaks and no one around to help!!!

Everyone hides, I would hide to if the pump to replace it was like $500 bucks or more for that matter.

I was all ready to buy a Deltec and found out how much replacement parts were and about threw up.
People that have owned both have talked me into H&S. One reason is better service and parts are cheaper!!
 
ER and H&S replacement Eheim pumps are approximately $300/ea. Deltec replacement Eheim pumps are $550/ea., almost double.

Didn't catch the 600g SPS, then you've got to step up to:
H&S A300-3x1260 $2200 1000g capacity
Deltec AP1003 $3270 930g capacity
Euro-Reef RC750 $1998 750g capacity

I would highly recommend the H&S A300, best quality built out of the 3 skimmers and performance should be similar on all 3 units. If you have some height contraints, Then go for the:
H&S 300-3x1260 $1900 1000g capacity
Deltec AP703 $3159 530g capacity
 
What do you guys think of the skimmers by Tunze?
The 9020s aren't very large, but their pumps are reportedly plankton friendly. I wondered about using them on a traditional recirc body...now it appears as though Tunze thought the same thing with the Tunze DOC Master 9440 (and other models).

The concern I have with using "common sense" and gauging things like body shape and size, air capacity, and etc. is that it seems like none of these factors' effects on skimmate have been quantified...

Is it true that we don't know how tall vs. fatter correlates to skimmate production?

What do you think of the design of the new tunzes compared to these other skimmers?
 
In terms of needlewheel type skimmers, the biggest hype is on the new ATi Bubblemaster skimmers. They do really perform well. There is 3 really long threads on information on these guys and here's the link to the 3rd thread:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1072121&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

I would suggest that Tunzes and BMs be discussed on another thread so that we don't continue to hijack this thread. The thread starter is looking for a good skimmer for 600g system and both these skimmer lines don't qualify.
 
How come the tunze doesn't qualify?
I'm considering the same/similar bioload--I'm not looking for a puny skimmer.

The one I asked about, Tunze 9440, is rated for a 1000+ gallon tank:
Tunze Master DOC Skimmer 9440.000
Contains two Hydrofoamers, recommended for aquariums up to 4,000 litres (1,057 USgal.) of salt water.

Immersion depth from 100 to 270 mm (3.9 to 10.6 in.),
dimensions: diam.480 (18.8 in.) x H 580 mm (22.8 in.),
230V/50Hz (115V/60Hz) 46 W;
water throughput: 2,600 l/h (686 USgal./h),
air capacity: 1,600 l/h (422 USgal./h).
Skimmer cup volume: 2 litres (.52 USgal.).
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and goes up to 2000+ gallons:
Tunze Master DOC Skimmer 9480.000
Contains four Hydrofoamers, recommended for aquariums up to 8,000 litres (2,113 USgal.) of salt water.

Immersion depth from 100 to 370 mm (3.9 to 14.5 in),
dimensions: diam. 550 (21.6 in.) x H 700 mm (27.5 in.),
230V/50Hz (115V/60Hz) 92 W,
water throughput: 5,200 l/h (1,373 USgal./h),
air capacity: 3,200 l/h (845 USgal./h),
Skimmer cup volume: 7 litresl (1.8 USgal.).
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Not a threadjack, right?
These skimmers may deserve to be included in the big three already listed. Anyone with any experience with them?
Part of the appeal to me is the fact that the pumps are reportedly plankton friendly.

Are any of the ones listed so far plankton friendly?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10139434#post10139434 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reef Sponger
ER and H&S replacement Eheim pumps are approximately $300/ea. Deltec replacement Eheim pumps are $550/ea., almost double.

Didn't catch the 600g SPS, then you've got to step up to:
H&S A300-3x1260 $2200 1000g capacity
Deltec AP1003 $3270 930g capacity
Euro-Reef RC750 $1998 750g capacity

I would highly recommend the H&S A300, best quality built out of the 3 skimmers and performance should be similar on all 3 units. If you have some height contraints, Then go for the:
H&S 300-3x1260 $1900 1000g capacity
Deltec AP703 $3159 530g capacity
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Meaningless "ratings" aside, I would put the $1668 ER RS500 as similar in performance as the $2200 H&S A300 and the $3150 Deltec AP703. The 3 have nearly identical specs. It is the standout value in this size skimmer. The ER RC750 and Deltec AP1003 would be a step up in performance above the other 3.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10139566#post10139566 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mope54


The concern I have with using "common sense" and gauging things like body shape and size, air capacity, and etc. is that it seems like none of these factors' effects on skimmate have been quantified...

Is it true that we don't know how tall vs. fatter correlates to skimmate production?
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I posted this:
Common sense for one. Look at the specs of the skimmer. Body size, technology, air draw. When you have three skimmers with nearly identical specs, there may be some small differences in performance, but not 2x the skimming capacity from one to the other.
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My point is when comparing swimmers with nearly identical specs and design, but with wildly different "ratings", use common sense. I was not posting about skimmers with different designs.
 
I'd talk to spazz, theres a thread about his skimmers for large systems. Most efficient and raved about I've seen. Well made stuff from what others that have them say, and he stands behind them. Probably half the cost and running expense as most others.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10139741#post10139741 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by klam114
In terms of needlewheel type skimmers, the biggest hype is on the new ATi Bubblemaster skimmers. They do really perform well. There is 3 really long threads on information on these guys and here's the link to the 3rd thread:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1072121&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

I would suggest that Tunzes and BMs be discussed on another thread so that we don't continue to hijack this thread. The thread starter is looking for a good skimmer for 600g system and both these skimmer lines don't qualify.
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I have a Tunze Master DOC skimmer and it is rated for over 1000g so I think it should be included in this conversation.
 
I don't think 10" in diameter is nearly enough for a 600g tank. I'd say a 18" diameter is a must for a 600g tank.
 
NW-deltec
Spazz very good_ afellow reefer in our club has one in his 1000 gallons Total(volume) he loves it.
Another very good option is a comercial DD ETSS very very good, this would be my choice.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10140287#post10140287 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luke33
I don't think 10" in diameter is nearly enough for a 600g tank. I'd say a 18" diameter is a must for a 600g tank.
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You are probably right.... I lose vision thinking above a few hundred gallons. But I'm sure that the ORCA guys could come up with something.

Or hey, how about that Dart needle wheel that Premium Aquatics is offering? 12x34 with a Dart pump. I think it is rated for around 1k gallons.
 
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