soft coral/reef and SH mix ??

kimowen04

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i have my 10 gal nano FOWLR. im in the middle of my cycle with my new 46 gal tank and im going to keep soft corals and i have 1 clown and 1abalone and 2 hermits! can i keep a pair of Sh in a soft coral reef tank? what soft corals do i avoid an what setup is recommended for what im trying to do? soft corals and maybe keep a pair of Sh and maybe other small fish nnot sure still figuring out what i wanna do w the tank! i am sure i want the soft corals though.
 
Avoid non-photosynthetic soft corals, as they are difficult to keep alive for most everyone.

What species of clownfish do you have? Clowns aren't the best tankmates for seahorses. The only species I would even consider would be captive bred ocellaris, as they are a bit smaller and less aggressive than most other species. And even then, I would want my seahorses very well established and healthy before I would chance it (and if I had nice, well established, healthy seahorses, I doubt I'd risk ruining it all just to add a clownfish! But that is just me.)
 
Seahorses are best kept in a species tank as they are so susceptible to infestations from parasites from others.
Temperatures for best chances of success are between 68° and 74°. Higher than that, the bacteria growth is exponential making for more failures in seahorse keeping.
It's not recommended to keep any stinging corals or clams in with them.
While occasionally there are seahorse kept successfully in reef conditions, it is rare compared to the number of times it has been tried, costing a lot of needless seahorse deaths.
This site doesn't allow posting of sites where you can get the best information but if you google, you should be able to find the one that counts.
 
thanks for all the input. i think my clown is oc. hes been alone in a 10 gal for a long time so i have no clue how aggressive he rly is. i thought i had come across a pic of a SH with a clown an anemone in the backround but i kno thats not recomended. hmm wondering if i should keep my clown or not? will he like attack the SH or is it more that hell out compete for food??
 
Q? my clown as of today is acting funny! test r ok! hes not swimming right. . he seems to be working harder to swim and his body stays more vertical like hes swimming up for food hes not acting right? is he sick what do i do?
 
It's pretty hard to diagnose based on what you have mentioned, but you could put the fish in a q-tank/hospital tank and drop the s.g. down to 1.010 over the period of about 4 hours, thus treating with hyposalinity, in case of parasite infestation. (Most inverts cannot survive hyposalinity treatment.)
Some people do a freshwater dip and then place in a hospital tank with severely reduced s.g. like the 1.010.
Are there any external spots or marks showing that are not normal for the fish?
 
I had two CB occelaris clowns in with my seahorses and the only problem is they are aggressive at feeding time. Most seahorses are so shy that if something interferes with there food they back off. I removed mine because there mean and bit me. If your clown makes it and you already have it out of the tank you may not want to try it-they are hard buggers to catch.
 
hmm man im just so unsure on what i wanna do with the tank as far as fish? i kno i want soft photosynthetic corals and im pretty sure i was a pair of erectus horses? do u think they would be ideal for my setup, and me being a beginner? im not sure which soft corals realy sting much but ill so some more research. . so far on my list of corals that i would put w horses are ricordea,mushrooms,start polyps, button polyps and zoans, and some leathers i was thinking. . i seen a blue devil finger leather that looked ideal?? or ne other kind of leathers or east soft corals that may have branches or natural hitching posts???? what u guys think?
 
with the clown i was thinking maybe like target feeding my horses at the same spot everyday that way they get used to it and maybe if i had the clown in there he wouldnt be such a prob??? would that work? if i feed the clown first and then target feed my horses is i decide on this?
 
I always target fed my horses and for me personally my fish did not know the difference between its your turn to eat than it is mine. Everone comes running when they see the turkey baster and clowns are greedy eaters. You can always try it and see how it goes. The clown is not known to attack the seahorse so its not technically a direct threat but many people have had overall problems with clowns and seahorses. Like I said before they can be a pain to catch if you change your mind.
 
hm that makes it hard though since i have no where else for the clown to be cuz i intend to make my 10 gal nano my QT! btw my clown must have been just showing his wierd side the other day cuz hes acting normal now he was staying more vertical as he swam and stuff wierd? he was even at the top of the water yesterday and i as i walked by i thought he was dead belly up lol! but then i did notice a peice of blood worm floating at the top by the glass and i think he was literaly flipping around to get to it and eat it lol!! i think hel be ok but ill watch him. and if i got rid of him who would i give him to an i hate to lose him and money down the drain
 
I'm mostly concerned about livestock lives and if my seahorses are less likely to survive with clowns in the tank, I certainly would not have them.
Concerns money down the drain for giving the clown away don't really make too much sense if you are going to risk a more expensive life by keeping the cheaper one.
I'm sure you LFS will take it back and give a small credit for it, although no where near the original price you paid for it.
 
I have the same question to ask about soft corals. I have a lot of colt corals & was wondering if it was safe to add them to a seahorse tank? Would the mucas or slime from the coral bother the sh?
 
As there are no seahorse articles and no seahorse library on this forum that I've ever found, you need to google "seahorse tank mates" and the top two results will give you the best idea of fish, corals inverts that you may want to try.
Nothing is for certain though and there are times recommended ones don't work out, as well as non recommended ones have been know to work sometimes in some tanks.
 
Most soft corals are considered safe tankmates, although some soft corals can damage other soft corals. The ones to avoid are the non-photosynthetic ones, not because they have potent stings, but because they are likely to die in captive systems, and having something decaying in the water really destroys your water quality. There is one exception to this that I can think of, and that is the elephant ear mushroom, which can, and will, eat fish. Seahorses have few resources to keep them from being consumed, so I wouldn't chance tanking one with a piscivore.

Seahorse keepers really vary in what they feel comfortable with, in regard to tankmates. I won't say that any particular way is correct, although I do feel that some ways are wrong! Basically, you want to make sure that your seahorses are safe. In regard to any fish tankmates for your seahorses, here are just some of the things you need to consider:

How aggressive is the fish? Obviously, seahorses don't have any way to spar with a tankmate, so they should not be housed with fish that are going to act hostile towards their mere presence.

How "fleet of fin" is the fish? Although most owners will caution that seahorse tanks need to be set up with low flow areas and such, many seahorses like to explore all areas of their tanks, although they may only do so for a specific hour each day. Very active fish dashing around the tank will increase your seahorse's desire to stay hitched and secure, and will interupt pair bonding.

How gluttonous is the fish? Seahorses have very inefficient digestive systems and need to eat frequently. They also have a tendency to study their food before they strike and "snick" it down. Gluttonous fish that seem to constantly be ravenous for food will make feeding your seahorses difficult, and a poorly nuriushed seahorse can quickly become an ill one.

What are the natural behaviors of the fish? Seahorses can hitch to objects for long periods of time and are known to have algae grow on them. Fish that feed by rasping algae or that enjoy picking at rocks/substrate/etc. can both annoy and harm seahorses.


All of that said, even if I had all of the tanks that I would need to house all of the fish that I would like to own, I would likely still elect to house additional fish species with my seahorses. I simply think that the list of truly suitable and safe fish tankmates is pretty small, unfortunately.
 
Most soft corals are considered safe tankmates, although some soft corals can damage other soft corals. The ones to avoid are the non-photosynthetic ones, not because they have potent stings, but because they are likely to die in captive systems, and having something decaying in the water really destroys your water quality. There is one exception to this that I can think of, and that is the elephant ear mushroom, which can, and will, eat fish. Seahorses have few resources to keep them from being consumed, so I wouldn't chance tanking one with a piscivore.

Seahorse keepers really vary in what they feel comfortable with, in regard to tankmates. I won't say that any particular way is correct, although I do feel that some ways are wrong! Basically, you want to make sure that your seahorses are safe. In regard to any fish tankmates for your seahorses, here are just some of the things you need to consider:

How aggressive is the fish? Obviously, seahorses don't have any way to spar with a tankmate, so they should not be housed with fish that are going to act hostile towards their mere presence.

How "fleet of fin" is the fish? Although most owners will caution that seahorse tanks need to be set up with low flow areas and such, many seahorses like to explore all areas of their tanks, although they may only do so for a specific hour each day. Very active fish dashing around the tank will increase your seahorse's desire to stay hitched and secure, and will interupt pair bonding.

How gluttonous is the fish? Seahorses have very inefficient digestive systems and need to eat frequently. They also have a tendency to study their food before they strike and "snick" it down. Gluttonous fish that seem to constantly be ravenous for food will make feeding your seahorses difficult, and a poorly nuriushed seahorse can quickly become an ill one.

What are the natural behaviors of the fish? Seahorses can hitch to objects for long periods of time and are known to have algae grow on them. Fish that feed by rasping algae or that enjoy picking at rocks/substrate/etc. can both annoy and harm seahorses.


All of that said, even if I had all of the tanks that I would need to house all of the fish that I would like to own, I would likely still elect to house additional fish species with my seahorses. I simply think that the list of truly suitable and safe fish tankmates is pretty small, unfortunately.

+1 with a couple of exclamation points... this is very well put.

As a general rule, have a good idea of what you are getting into with your tank mate choices (your expience or others) and be prepared to intervene if necessary.

On your soft coral question, meet your SHs needs first and add corals that fit within those needs and will not harm the SHs and you will be ok.
 
hmm well im still debating SH. i jus dnt kno what i want. to be honest just by researching some fish i dont see ne fish that i like that r a decent size i can even put in my tank cuz most sites say they need like 75-100gal!! what are some like 5''-6'' fish maybe that i could keep that arnt supper picky? all i seem to see is like 2-4'' fish that arnt as attractive? i just dnt have an idea?? ne help
 
ok so far sh are my top choice! what type of soft easy corals are best for sh? what is best most attractive hitches, what do u use?? ne advice on what u think would b a cool setup or ne thing let me kno im almost positive im going w a sh tank
 
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