Some new fish...

[Recty]

Well in your case, I'd be much more worried about die off than in my case. Really, all I've got to lose are bacteria. There is no visible life on the rocks but algae and that is cropped down to nearly nothing between the tangs and the hypo. I'm sure you have a lot more life inside your tank than I do, mine is pretty much just rocks full of bacteria.

I just started raising my salinity last night. I'm testing to see how much salt mix it takes to raise the salinity .001 a day. I mixed in 5 cups of Instant Ocean to about 10 gallons of saltwater, which put it right about 1.023, then siphoned out 10 gallons from my tank and put in 10 gallons of 1.023, it barely made a dent. My tank went from 1.009 to maybe 1.0095, it definitely wasnt quite 1.010 yet. So, I started more water mixing, this time I did 24-25g and I made it 1.030, so when I stick that in it should raise my salinity, according to my calculations, to about 1.011. Tonight when it's fully mixed I'll give it a shot and see. I also raised my top off water to 1.025, so that will be gradually raising the salinity as water evaporates.

 

[anbosu]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15038353#post15038353 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Recty
I just turned 29, only one year left until I'm middle aged!

Kris and I are 6 years apart, I robbed the craddle, apparently.

As far as age goes and being married, it just depends on where you are at in your life as to when you're ready or not. A lot of people arent ready by 23, it's widely open to debate (mainly with my mother in law) if my wife was ready or not but oh well, that's a risk we took

I used to do stunts on my CBR as well, but I never got into the circle wheelies, I just did regular wheelies and stoppies. And then the other regular stuff like standing on the seat

I just turned 30 last week so I can assure you that it is depressing, lol.

 

[LisaD]

You guys have no idea. The 30s are great years. I'm turing 47 this August. Still not feeling the middle age too bad, and not looking it so much, but looking back on my 30s with a lot of nostalgia...

 

[Recty]

Heh, thanks for the positive view I'm not too worried about the 30s really, but I'll turn 30 when my wife is still 23, that is going to make me feel old.

 

[danorth]

We can trade for a week, mine's 32 and will make you feel like you're young again.......that just doesn't sound right huh? I mean the age!

 

[Recty]

Hah, better hope she doesnt read the boards.

Besides, I dont want to steal your wife from you, which is what I'm afraid would happen once she saw what a real man has to offer

Anyway...

Salinity is 1.0105, I just checked at lunch.

 

[danorth]

She knows what I am.

I'm telling you, it is the season for ich. I have my 55 at work with copper and the 10 qt with copper as well....the carrier? The pbt I got for $25. It is spotless yet again, but had a flare up. Weird how the ich lives inside the fish for a period of time, then squeezes out and spreads. Stupid bugs.

 

[Recty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15040460#post15040460 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by danorth
Stupid bugs.

Now that is a true statement.

 

[Zoom]

When i get my salinity slowly up it takes me about six weeks to two months .
I slowly bring my salinity up by just pour in a small cup of salt in the sump three /four times a day away from the return pump i never had any problems doing it this way with my tanks..
Just trying to make it easy for you, if the return pump is fast , i always use slow returns about two times the tank volume the most, you may need to just pour last salt and more times a day .

 

[LisaD]

You may be pouring in so little it doesn't matter, but several years ago, I accidentally killed a fish by adding a relatively small amount of fresh-mixed salt water. This isn't so different from adding salt directly to the tank. It can burn gills if you don't let it circulate for a time before adding.

To bring salinity up, I do daily partial water changes with a high salinity salt mix that has circulated at least overnight. Something like 1.040 or 1.045. You can calculate how much you want to affect specific gravity by comparing what you have with what % of the total volume you are adding.

I won't ever add raw salt water (or salt) directly to a tank again, after the experience I had.

 

[Recty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15044199#post15044199 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LisaD
To bring salinity up, I do daily partial water changes with a high salinity salt mix that has circulated at least overnight. Something like 1.040 or 1.045. You can calculate how much you want to affect specific gravity by comparing what you have with what % of the total volume you are adding.

Yep, that's what I'm doing, it's at 1.0115 right now and slowly climbing daily.

As far as adding salt fresh to the tank, I'm in agreement with Lisa. I've never done it, but a friend of mine who lives around here used to just dump salt right into his sump and let it mix it. His corals always puckered up and his fish scratched and looked sick when he did it. This was before I knew anything about salt water tanks, he assured me they were just so used to the other water that new salt in the water made them feel itchy but it wasnt a problem.

I think salt burning into your flesh would be a problem

 

[Recty]

Hmmm, well the majestic angel has a weird pale spot on his forehead. No bump in there and it isnt an ich spot or anything parasitical looking, I think much to big for that.

That is one thing I dont like about new fish is you dont know their coloration real well and their past history, so it's much harder to troubleshoot little things like that.

I'll try to post a picture up tonight, I think it's maybe just a stress spot or something, but water quality checked out good at lunch and the butterfly with him seems fine, both fish are also eating well.

 

[danorth]

Majestic do get pale areas on their forehead with stress...but a pic would help.

 

[Recty]

No pics available, sorry. I got home from work, about 4 hours after seeing the spots during lunch, and there is no spots. It just looks normal.

At lunch, the lights had just came on 10 minutes previous to me seeing the fish, so perhaps it was night time coloration, although it didnt look like any normal night time coloration I've ever seen. Just a big pale spot on it's forehead.

I'll watch for it tomorrow at lunch and see if it's back.

All 3 fish eating fine, I should be placing them in the main tank in 4-5 days and starting the copper treatment as soon as they look settled in, unless someone starts showing real bad ich then I'll just start immediately.

I'm really looking forward to that tank being nuked and hopefully completely empty of ich.

 

[Recty]

A question about turning off the skimmer while using Cupramine...

If I run the skimmer really low so nothing gets collected, basically just using it as an aerator, is that going to somehow mess up the cupramine treatment? I'd really like to be able to leave the skimmer on to help with oxygenating the water.

 

[Zoom]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15044199#post15044199 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LisaD
You may be pouring in so little it doesn't matter, but several years ago, I accidentally killed a fish by adding a relatively small amount of fresh-mixed salt water. This isn't so different from adding salt directly to the tank. It can burn gills if you don't let it circulate for a time before adding.

To bring salinity up, I do daily partial water changes with a high salinity salt mix that has circulated at least overnight. Something like 1.040 or 1.045. You can calculate how much you want to affect specific gravity by comparing what you have with what % of the total volume you are adding.

I won't ever add raw salt water (or salt) directly to a tank again, after the experience I had.

I always did it this way never a problem but you can do what ever you feel safe for your tank.
If the tank is small i will not do it.
And like i say my sump returns are very slow so it takes time to get the brine in the tank , i never add salt directly to the tank.

 

[Recty]

Yeah, my sump return rate is probably a little too fast for that to work well for me. I like to let my salt mix for at least a couple hours before I add it to the tank, normally at least a full 24 hours.

Well, actually normal for me is the water is normally mixing about a week, but lately with raising the salinity I've just been letting it mix 24 hours.

To each his own, though. What works for one hobbyist doesnt work for another, as long as everyone has happy healthy fish, who cares

 

[Zoom]

Well i try to make it easy for you i never saw any problems even with my reef tank some times i add salt to the sump to correct the salinity.
But like you say To each his own.

I can give you some tank Oxygen test i did with the skimmer if you like .

 

[Recty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15048903#post15048903 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
I can give you some tank Oxygen test i did with the skimmer if you like .

I'm not 100% on what you mean by that, but sure, hit me with it.

 

[Zoom]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15048912#post15048912 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Recty
I'm not 100% on what you mean by that, but sure, hit me with it.

Sorry my English is not the best even after i live here in the states for 39 years
Ok here is .
Well I try to see the best way to run my skimmer to keep my oxygen constriction high because my home is small and always closed up my oxygen in my tank water is always low.

I try with the windows all open and the skimmer running the oxygen was very high it took the tank water about 24 hours to get saturated.
All the windows closed up with the skimmer running in the winter time it was good not excellent but ok.
In the summer with all the widows close and the AC on , was ok a little better than the winter time.
I now use the outdoors air to feed the skimmer air in nipples that is just as good as with the windows open.
I also check with the skimmer off with all the windows open and that was very good also .But with all the windows close with the skimmer off the oxygen in the tank was very low it took about 24 hours to get low.
So skimmer thus helps when is on and if you like you can leave it off if you can keep the windows open at the house.
This entire test was done with saliferd test kits it is been two years , I can not remember the #.