Well, Well...I lost my train of thought now because of laughing too much at the facepalm thing. lol
Facepalm. Duly noted.
Carry on.
Facepalm. Duly noted.
Carry on.
Some thoughts on forum etiquette...
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How words are formed into sentences can go a long way to help direct a thread.
luther1200
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Another issue that people may not have considered is that when somebody is on this site asking for help, that they could already be very upset. Watching there beautiful tank, that they have spent countless hours of hard work to maintain, and countless dollars, go down hill. And they just can't figure out the problem. Then somebody comes on the thread and post a sarcastic comment. What kind of reaction from the OP do you think you are going to get. Most people in the hobby are very passionate about it, and don't like seeing any animal mistreated. But everybody has a different idea of what is mistreatment. Like for example somebody keeping a tang in a 120g tank when it clearly says to be kept in a tank over 125g. Is that 5g really a big deal, well to some people it is, and to others it isn't. I am not talking about the eel thread or any thread specifically.
I also think that if you get frustrated answering repetitive questions, then just move on and let somebody with a cooler, more composed attitude answer the question. Something that may be blatantly obvious to you may not be to some body else. Are they wrong, or a jerk for that?? No, they just need to be informed.
I also think that if you get frustrated answering repetitive questions, then just move on and let somebody with a cooler, more composed attitude answer the question. Something that may be blatantly obvious to you may not be to some body else. Are they wrong, or a jerk for that?? No, they just need to be informed.
tkeracer619
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IBTL
It's best to not make threads about locked threads because in the end the hot heads who ruined the other thread now have a place to continue their moral debates. Just let them die (the threads)
If you want to start an etiquette thread it's best to give it a few days and then make one that doesn't quote bad threads but gives good advice to making good high quality posts.
- Good Grammar or at least your best shot
- As good of spelling as you can, not everyone can spell so if there are mistakes don't act like that teacher we all hated.
- Try to be clear and direct with your questions.
- If people ask reasonable questions answer them without sneering, they might be qualifying for a proper well thought out answer and need some more info that was not supplied
- Do not insult people however small it might be or however ignorant their post is. Just ignore them.
- The Internet is not the place for sarcasm even when including emotions via smileys.
- Don't cuss or circumvent word filters.
- Do promote a friendly environment but don't try to force others to do so, it feeds them.
- Everyone has an opinion so when somebody doesn't add to your thread but just posts their opinion don't get upset, keep your thread on track by ignoring their opinion. If you have a troll, report them to moderators.
- Be polite and say thank you to those who deserve it.
It's best to not make threads about locked threads because in the end the hot heads who ruined the other thread now have a place to continue their moral debates. Just let them die (the threads)
If you want to start an etiquette thread it's best to give it a few days and then make one that doesn't quote bad threads but gives good advice to making good high quality posts.
- Good Grammar or at least your best shot
- As good of spelling as you can, not everyone can spell so if there are mistakes don't act like that teacher we all hated.
- Try to be clear and direct with your questions.
- If people ask reasonable questions answer them without sneering, they might be qualifying for a proper well thought out answer and need some more info that was not supplied
- Do not insult people however small it might be or however ignorant their post is. Just ignore them.
- The Internet is not the place for sarcasm even when including emotions via smileys.
- Don't cuss or circumvent word filters.
- Do promote a friendly environment but don't try to force others to do so, it feeds them.
- Everyone has an opinion so when somebody doesn't add to your thread but just posts their opinion don't get upset, keep your thread on track by ignoring their opinion. If you have a troll, report them to moderators.
- Be polite and say thank you to those who deserve it.
eric@tampa
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+1 on the last reply,I've been on here for over a year...just became a member and have noticed an lot of bashing that did not need to happen.Can't we post on a more possitive note. Thanks for letting me put in my 2cents worth.
Kieth71
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I would say that people that think they have answered a question to many times ..dont answer it any more.I am sure their will be another person that can take care of it.I would rather wait for an answer a little longer then to have someone that feels they have answered a question for the 100th time and is sarcastic or snotty about it answer it.This forum is called reef central not elitist central.We have a wide variety of skill sets here and treating someone badly or being short with them is not gonna help anyone.
Aquabucket
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First off he is studying marine biology and did have an idea of what they where ~ a type of snake eel or sand eel. Acropora corals are collected and placed in tanks with-out having absolute IDs all the time. None of these types of eels are on the protected list in Florida. Its not rocket science you know. To say he knew nothing about them is ridiculous. He also knows the exact habitat they came from and can start to base it's captive care on that. How many species of marine life do you have in your tank that you know the exact type of habitat they came from? It does not take much knowledge to know that they are probably an ambush predator. Upward facing eyes and a large mouth are good indicators of this.
Being in close proximity to the ocean provides the collector the option to capture live food for it if needed. As a collector myself I doubt I would have very much trouble keeping those eels alive in captivity if a really wanted to. In my experience almost all of the wild species I collected myself readily took to feeding in captivity ~ in fact much more so than the ornamental species collected from overseas.
You keep stating that you want to set an example for others who might want to try and do the same thing as the OP in that thread. I think your blind concern for others less knowledgeable has caused you to lose an objective opinion on the matter.
You think the eels are doomed to a quick death in captivity yet you have no basis for making this argument. If you were really concerned about the eels why not give suggestions on their possible care instead of ripping the OP a new one.
I for one was hoping to learn of its exact ID but because of you and a few others the thread is now locked. Not really constructive on your part is it?
BTW he was not looking for care information ~ just an ID.
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rssjsb
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Your parting shot at Matt and Snorvich are way off base. They are two of the most respectful, helpful posters on RC. If we had a "nice guy" tag on RC, they'd both have it. When I see either of them participating in a thread, I pay attention.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14763963#post14763963 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by anathema
So, we've seen that those who came with the purpose of defending their right to attack people are remarkably thin skinned when faced with their own tactics. Odd how that works.
Have a nice day all, I'm off to bed.
By contrast, I avoid posts by loudmouths on both sides of any issue, since the aim of such people is not to help, but to force opinions on others. So, anathema, for what it's worth I agree with your main point - whether the subject is politics, religion, or the weather, I have never seen a mind changed by yelling or insults.
So, if I find myself getting annoyed or angry, I walk away. Bye.
FYI, this post was started before the other thread was locked, and I pretty much quit paying attention to that thread when I started this one. It was just sad to see how that thread was trashed, on both sides.
As far as my parting shot being way off base, no, not really. In actuality, I made the mistake of skimming Matt's first post, and simply read the first paragraph, in which he defended his right to flame people. I had to go back and reread after he left in a huff to figure out why. I felt pretty silly about it, and even apologized, but oops, too late, they have already written me and my opinions off.
However, I still disagree that it was a direct attack. I reserve my right to use the term "tang police" because it's an accepted term on RC that has been in use for years. I sincerely doubt any of those people will run off to their LFS for advice, and stop using the forum. Hopefully, they can even see that when those tactics are used, opinions aren't changed. In any case, I made at least one person think about it, and I'm not trying to "force" anything on anyone. Merely trying to point out that flames are ineffective way to change opinions.
It's also a bad idea to skim people's replies when they disagree with you, you might look like an idiot yourself.
As far as my parting shot being way off base, no, not really. In actuality, I made the mistake of skimming Matt's first post, and simply read the first paragraph, in which he defended his right to flame people. I had to go back and reread after he left in a huff to figure out why. I felt pretty silly about it, and even apologized, but oops, too late, they have already written me and my opinions off.
However, I still disagree that it was a direct attack. I reserve my right to use the term "tang police" because it's an accepted term on RC that has been in use for years. I sincerely doubt any of those people will run off to their LFS for advice, and stop using the forum. Hopefully, they can even see that when those tactics are used, opinions aren't changed. In any case, I made at least one person think about it, and I'm not trying to "force" anything on anyone. Merely trying to point out that flames are ineffective way to change opinions.
It's also a bad idea to skim people's replies when they disagree with you, you might look like an idiot yourself.
Its all a bit funny really. To be honest there are a lot of hobbiests who are 'holier than thow' and as pointed out many times before-our fish are caught from the sea including the ones we eat. To be honest, a tang would prefer a reef to swim in so when the guy with the 8ft tank scolds the guy with the 4ft-well fair enough-not so much room but your situation isnt ideal either my friend-not exactly the ocean. I think what could have been a really interesting thread about eel ID was ruined by a few idiots. As for this thread-'spot on' to be honest.
luther1200
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I think this thread needs to be locked and just die already.
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To those that said he should not have asked a question if he could not be a little more thick skinned about the replies.
He never once asked if he should have collected the eels. Nor did he ask if it was illeagal or immoral. He asked only for a little insight on a positive I.D.
He never once asked if he should have collected the eels. Nor did he ask if it was illeagal or immoral. He asked only for a little insight on a positive I.D.
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