something smells...well....fishy

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bilge rat

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so i just purchased some more LR rubble for my 34g cad...
tank is only 8 days old and im just lettin her stabilize, enjoying the LR and few hitchhikers that came along for the ride
all params are normal, cycle is done (used established LR and LS)
after adding 2lbs more of LR today...their is a noticeable odor coming off the tank now its...well..fishy...or shrimpy smelling...
maybe i never noticed it before...normal?
or is there something decaying on the LR i just added???
Its just live rock rubble i picked off bottom of the LFS's LR tank
there was some established coral from a customer tank in there he said...i was just scooping rock bits and smaller pieces from bottom of tank.
i think i may actually have some coral in here...help on ID please.
this SPS was in with the rest its kinda stinky...i thought it was already dead..maybe its not...maybe its alive or dying?
here are some pics
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/Bumpasses/SPS-a-1.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/Bumpasses/SPS-b.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/Bumpasses/SPS-c.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/Bumpasses/SPS-d.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/Bum...s/wahtamI-a.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/Bum...s/wahtamI-b.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/Bum...s/wahtamI-c.jpg
thanks
joshuah
 
Ok first things first is that YOUR TANK IS NOT DONE ITS CYCLE!!!!
8 days hahaha your tank will be going through a cycle for the next 6 months till it settles down true the worst part will be over within the first month and a half but dont fool yourself. Secondly the smell that is comeing out of your tank is DA BEACH MON on live rock is all sorts of plant matter and other organisms when put into a new tank that cant handle the bio load of the break down of all this plant matter and such it is going to releace it through what you are smelling.

CURES: what you can do to get this smell out of your tank is get your self a nice big protien skimmer and run it all day and night. PLus if you have a bio wheel get it out of the tank. Another thing you can do is put some chemipure in your filter and get rid of any filter floss you might be using.

let me know if you have already done this and we can go from there. I need to know everything you are running on your tank and what is living in there to make a proper guess at your fishy problem. But untill then make some fish on the stove so your old lady doesnt kick the tank out of the house

good luck!!
 
tank is only 8 days old and im just lettin her stabilize, enjoying the LR and few hitchhikers that came along for the ride
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Missed that part in the first read of the post. Yes, using established live rock and live sand does not guarantee a quick cycle. You must have had to move them from where they were established, right? Reusing live sand can be nasty. You probably are just starting your cycle.

Lisa
 
here are the last 3 pics over again sunfish...not sure why they no worky

sheeeesh the sarcasm...i tell ya...

"Secondly the smell that is comeing out of your tank is DA BEACH MON"

welll dah tide musta jus cum in mahn cuz she wuzn smelllin like dis till i put da rok in.

im not gonna dump any chemis into it, i feel thats counter productive and the initial cycle was done before i put the rock in the tank...DHL lost the tank so i had LR in a rubbermaid for 2 weeks. The LR came from an established customer tank and the LS came from the tanks in the LFS. as i said before its not ready...hence the whole me not putting anything into the tank part of my thread...

whats the difference between re-using LS and using LS to seed a new SB?

wahtamI-c.jpg

wahtamI-b.jpg

wahtamI-a.jpg

thanks
joshuah
 
chemipure is a type of carbon not chemicals ;-) but i could see why you would think that. secondly what you have in the picture is dying coral which is more decomposing organic matter which will cause the smell. Where you filtering the water while it was in a bucket for two weeks? DO you have a protien skimmer? what kind of filter? what kind of flow?

the difference in seeding is you are not adding a ton of organic matter which you are if you add used sand. Plus you are suppose to clean (Rinse) your sand out once or twice a year so you dont get build up in it. Plus add in the organic matter on the live rock and you are in a pickel.

If I were you, which I am not, I would take everything out of the tank rinse out the sand rinse the rock (all with salt water) then get a lot of flow and run the tank with the lights off doing two 10% water changes a week for at least a month

sorry if this is not the answer you are looking for but there are some nasty things that build up in a sand bed and we dont even know what kind of tank this sand came from. well answer the questions i asked and maybe a better solution will be obvious
 
-i did 3 water changes to LR whilst it was in rubbermaid and had 3
mj 900's pushin h2o (all salt h2o is from LFS pre-mixed en-mass)
-i rinsed the sand thrice with salt h2o...although not
intentionally...had to tear down tank to "beef up" stand then to
move stand...
-taking the LR in and out in and out in and out then add
3aquascapes and i think the LR is all perty well rinsed...although
as i said not intentionally.

-i have a skimmer...as a just in case...im trying to go without.
-no filter, built in fuge with LR rubble and chaeto,
-3 heds pushin 400gph each
-2 75w heaters
-T5's and MH which are stock with this new 34g Cadlights.
i have some red shrooms and lime green zoos which came on the rock, they are propogatin..esp the shrooms so i thought that was a good sign
-my params have been 0, PH 8.0 temp more or less at 78, SG at
1.025.
 
I'd run the skimmer full time. Do small water changes every few days for a couple of weeks. Then give it a month or so to come back. Keep looking as always for dead stuff and get it out so it does't infect water.
 
I'd run your tests again... no way are "all my parameters zero", and by the way... many of your parameters don't want to be zero.
 
To fix the smell - open a window, it will go away on it's own in a day or two. It comes from die-off on the rock, just a little bit wil cause the smell, but it really doesn't take long for it to dissapate.

You may be cycled becasue you used cured LR and LS - I cycled my tank in 4 days. But like you're already doing, don't rush it and let it sit for a litte while.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9768748#post9768748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bilge rat
-i did 3 water changes to LR whilst it was in rubbermaid and had 3
mj 900's pushin h2o (all salt h2o is from LFS pre-mixed en-mass)
-i rinsed the sand thrice with salt h2o...although not
intentionally...had to tear down tank to "beef up" stand then to
move stand...
-taking the LR in and out in and out in and out then add
3aquascapes and i think the LR is all perty well rinsed...although
as i said not intentionally.

-i have a skimmer...as a just in case...im trying to go without.
-no filter, built in fuge with LR rubble and chaeto,
-3 heds pushin 400gph each
-2 75w heaters
-T5's and MH which are stock with this new 34g Cadlights.
i have some red shrooms and lime green zoos which came on the rock, they are propogatin..esp the shrooms so i thought that was a good sign
-my params have been 0, PH 8.0 temp more or less at 78, SG at
1.025.
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Everything sound good that you are doing i would recomend 100% running a skimmer and a filter for at least a 3-4 weeks until everything has settled. This is not a must but will make thing a lot easier to handle.

once things are under control you can remove these things and try and go from there. Keep up with you water changes and once you get the filter (with chemipure) working then use a turkey baster to blow off the rock twice a week this will lift rotting organics into the water column so your filter can remove them.

If you are going to stick with the tank the way it is then just dont stir things up anymore it sounds like you have rinsed and moved everything plenty. So for now just go with the steps we have talked about.

Also keep in mind that running a filterless skimmerless tank is a very difficult balance and everything that happens in your tank must be counter acted by and equil and opisite reaction. I run a filter less 12 gallon nano with one fish, a couple hermits and coral. it is in fact a zen garden any little miss step and you will be cleaning up after it for a while. But when it works it is worth it.

good luck and dont feel comprimised by using a skimmer and a filter to start off.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9768312#post9768312 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bilge rat

sheeeesh the sarcasm...i tell ya...

"Secondly the smell that is comeing out of your tank is DA BEACH MON"

welll dah tide musta jus cum in mahn cuz she wuzn smelllin like dis till i put da rok in.
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

That's too funny.

Here's my very simple and very short and humble opinion on the matter:

Run skimmer
Keep normal water change schedule (syphon off dead stuff)
Run good carbon (it'll help get rid of/reduce the smell)
open window
Just let it sit
:)
 
be patient, if you hurry things you will have a disaster! check water before any additions are made and have your LFS also check them for you. Time will clear up the smell and you do have coral dyeing off probably because of a spike from the rock.
 
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