Sonny's Rimless Shallow Reef.

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Sonny - On your website, you state that you run carbon in a PhosBan Reactor. How often do you run this or do you run carbon 24/7? Thanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15349177#post15349177 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rs1831
Hello Sonny,

I've really enjoyed reading through your thread and I have couple of questions for you. I'm currently in the process of getting a larger tank and some new equipment. Would you go with a vortech 40 or a 20 for a 75 gallon tank that is going to be mostly sps? Also, I've decided to stay with halides for the time being and I am using phoenix 14k bulbs and I am curious what you would recommend for t5 supplementation? I am going to add 2 t5 bulbs. And my last question is I am going to be dosing vodka and bacteria and I am wondering if you think MSX160 would be a choice?

Thanks,
Roland

I'm not Sonny, but I have an MP-40W in my 65 with no problems. I run it 100% in reef crest mode with no problems.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15348618#post15348618 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
The Ushio has less output and is in the 9K range, while the XM10K is in the 12K range with higher output. Both were tested on M58 ballasts

Hard to argue with that... :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15348635#post15348635 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
I do not shut down my skimmer with MB7 as it can negatively affect the system PH as seen above in the charts posted by kfick

As far as I know, the new labels on MB7 now say that it is OK to leave the skimmer on.

I contacted Brightwell about this and here is the response I received:

"Good morning,
Thank you for contacting us. The directions have not been changed; temporarily halting protein skimming just prior to addition of MicroBacter7 to the system and then allowing at least 1 hour for the microbes to disperse throughout the system prior to resuming protein skimming will unquestionably enable the microbes to function more effectively than failing to follow this procedure. The only impact that temporarily halting skimming will have on pH is in the temporary decrease in de-gassing and slight accumulation of weak acids that will occur; this may allow carbonic acid and other weak acids to accumulate and decrease alkalinity slightly, however a properly-buffered system should have no significant change in pH.

I hope that this information has been helpful; please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any additional questions or comments. Thanks again for your interest in Brightwell Aquatics; I sincerely appreciate it. Have a pleasant day.

Kindest regards,

Chris Brightwell"
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15349177#post15349177 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rs1831
Hello Sonny,

I've really enjoyed reading through your thread and I have couple of questions for you. I'm currently in the process of getting a larger tank and some new equipment. Would you go with a vortech 40 or a 20 for a 75 gallon tank that is going to be mostly sps? Also, I've decided to stay with halides for the time being and I am using phoenix 14k bulbs and I am curious what you would recommend for t5 supplementation? I am going to add 2 t5 bulbs. And my last question is I am going to be dosing vodka and bacteria and I am wondering if you think MSX160 would be a choice?

Thanks,
Roland

Hello :D

I would go with the MP40W. This will put out more flow and will come in handy if you decide to upgrade tanks again in the future.

I have a Phoenix 14K running on a 30gl rimless and it really could use some "pop". Go with two Ati Blue+ bulbs for a bluer look, or use an Ati Aquablue Special and Blue+ bulb.

The MSX160 looks like a fine skimmer. Just be sure to seed your new system with MB7 and move as much water as possible from the old system over.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15349271#post15349271 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tobit
Sonny - On your website, you state that you run carbon in a PhosBan Reactor. How often do you run this or do you run carbon 24/7? Thanks.

I will have to change that as I am now running the carbon in a mesh bag 24/7. The only reason I switched over was that I needed the reactor for periodic GFo use.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15349471#post15349471 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by newsalt
I contacted Brightwell about this and here is the response I received:

"Good morning,
Thank you for contacting us. The directions have not been changed; temporarily halting protein skimming just prior to addition of MicroBacter7 to the system and then allowing at least 1 hour for the microbes to disperse throughout the system prior to resuming protein skimming will unquestionably enable the microbes to function more effectively than failing to follow this procedure. The only impact that temporarily halting skimming will have on pH is in the temporary decrease in de-gassing and slight accumulation of weak acids that will occur; this may allow carbonic acid and other weak acids to accumulate and decrease alkalinity slightly, however a properly-buffered system should have no significant change in pH.

I hope that this information has been helpful; please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any additional questions or comments. Thanks again for your interest in Brightwell Aquatics; I sincerely appreciate it. Have a pleasant day.

Kindest regards,

Chris Brightwell"


Hmmmmm....I may have to try that. I have been keeping my skimmer on but may have to try turning it off for an hour and see if it makes a difference.

Thanks for the info! :thumbsup:

Sonny
 
Strange, in the neozeo thread they have been saying that Brightwell told them it isn't necessary to turn the protein skimmer off and that Brightwell doesn't in the test tanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15349628#post15349628 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by saltygeek
Strange, in the neozeo thread they have been saying that Brightwell told them it isn't necessary to turn the protein skimmer off and that Brightwell doesn't in the test tanks.

Yeah, I read that too. That's why I was recommending leaving the skimmer on. I have been leaving mine on and the MB7 still works fine. I may turn it off for one hour if only to see if it does in fact make a difference.

Personally, I would recommend that everyone leave their skimmer on at least until they have an established bacterial population. In initial dosing some systems may react strongly to MB7 and suck out most of the available oxygen.
 
I dont know guys, i am sticking with sunny's advice on keeping skimmer on. The dip in PH shown in the graph is obvious. Also, with the daily addition on bacteria, even if the skimmer DOES remove some, we should be ok. If in doubt why not just up your dose by a drop or two to compensate?
 
When I started using MB7 i was turning off the skimmer for awhile but it became a pain so I just raised my dose a little to compensate.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15349648#post15349648 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by platax88
I dont know guys, i am sticking with sunny's advice on keeping skimmer on. The dip in PH shown in the graph is obvious. Also, with the daily addition on bacteria, even if the skimmer DOES remove some, we should be ok. If in doubt why not just up your dose by a drop or two to compensate?

Sorry platax, didnt see your post.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15349648#post15349648 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by platax88
I dont know guys, i am sticking with sunny's advice on keeping skimmer on. The dip in PH shown in the graph is obvious. Also, with the daily addition on bacteria, even if the skimmer DOES remove some, we should be ok. If in doubt why not just up your dose by a drop or two to compensate?


Good point. If you guys are worried just add a couple extra drops to your daily dosage. I would rather you guys lose a small amount of bacteria then to risk crashing your tank due to a rapid reduction in oxygen and/or PH.
 
If you do turn your skimmer off, it makes much less of an impact if you only do so when the lights are on. The huge dip in the graph I posted was with the lights off. I turn my skimmer off for about an hour when I feed and dose aminos in the evneing. You can see it in the graph right when the pH is on its way up, but before the 2 part dosing kicks in (the bumps in the graph).

I think Sunny is right about the intial dosing. I'd be scared to turn off my skimmer if I was dosing capfulls of MB7!
 
When I initially started dosing MB7 I was turning off my skimmer as suggested from Brightwell but then I noticed Sonny’s recommendation about leaving it on so I tried his method. I did not notice any difference with either method but leaving the skimmer on was a lot easier so I stuck with that method.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15349684#post15349684 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by platax88
Sunny,

Do you drip your MB7 straight into the DT or do you dilute in tank water as the directions suggest?

I drip the drops straight into the display tank in front of the Vortech Mp40W.
 
Exactly how I dose everything as well......turn off the return pump and skimmer and drip directly in front of my Vortechs. Before I had my Vortechs I dripped in front of my Koralias. I leave the return pump and skimmer off for 30 minutes before resuming operation.
 
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QUOTE -I have a Phoenix 14K running on a 30gl rimless and it really could use some "pop". Go with two Ati Blue+ bulbs for a bluer look, or use an Ati Aquablue Special and Blue+ bulb. -

Do these bulbs have any benefit to the corals or do they just give your tank a blue look? Right now i am running radiums with 2 T5 actinics.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15350481#post15350481 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by naz42
QUOTE -I have a Phoenix 14K running on a 30gl rimless and it really could use some "pop". Go with two Ati Blue+ bulbs for a bluer look, or use an Ati Aquablue Special and Blue+ bulb. -

Do these bulbs have any benefit to the corals or do they just give your tank a blue look? Right now i am running radiums with 2 T5 actinics.

The bulbs put out a good amount of PAR and will widen the spectrum of light so it will most certainly aid the corals in coloration and growth.

If I were running MH's I would use Blue+'s instead of actinic. The Blue+'s look better to me and blow away actinics when it comes to output. plus, the actinic T5's I have seen are slightly purple while the Blue+ is a brilliant blue.
 
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