Sparkly palys--show them to me

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15003326#post15003326 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by joshnola
These are my magicians that I lost about a month ago... ]

not magicians...speckled RPE's as are parios hiltons (which look fantastic by the way). At a distance they look similar to magicians, but there are clear differences in color and potential color of the faces and the color of the spackles is completely different in any condition

I only bring it up for conversation purposes as well as I have not seen magicians since I lost mine.

Anybody who has them has some serious bartering material to get their hands in my tank
 
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Ah, good to know. I was unaware... Still, they were my favorites, but for some reason they just melted out as some polyps tend to do.

Any idea where I could get some more?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15017610#post15017610 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flyyyguy
not magicians...speckled RPE's as are parios hiltons (which look fantastic by the way). At a distance they look similar to magicians, but there are clear differences in color and potential color of the faces and the color of the spackles is completely different in any condition

I only bring it up for conversation purposes as well as I have not seen magicians since I lost mine.

Anybody who has them has some serious bartering material to get their hands in my tank
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15022305#post15022305 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by joshnola
Ah, good to know. I was unaware... Still, they were my favorites, but for some reason they just melted out as some polyps tend to do.

Any idea where I could get some more?


http://www.exoticfrags.us/corals.php?s=21&c=230

they are calling them a magician morph which I would of course disagree with. :) I dont think very many people have actually seen the magicians in person.

What sets them apart and makes them truly special IMO, is that the spackles besdies being a different structure, are neon green, the exact same color as the mouth, whereas the speckled rpes are a light bluish colro fo spackles. this cannot be morphed based on environment

you can note it here.

http://www.coralpedia.com/index.php/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=5463

thats my pic. I didnt name them, just added them to the gallery. they have been around for at least a couple of years under that common name, again, just not easy to find
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15022458#post15022458 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flyyyguy
http://www.exoticfrags.us/corals.php?s=21&c=230

they are calling them a magician morph which I would of course disagree with. :) I dont think very many people have actually seen the magicians in person.

What sets them apart and makes them truly special IMO, is that the spackles besdies being a different structure, are neon green, the exact same color as the mouth, whereas the speckled rpes are a light bluish colro fo spackles. this cannot be morphed based on environment

you can note it here.

http://www.coralpedia.com/index.php/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=5463

thats my pic. I didnt name them, just added them to the gallery. they have been around for at least a couple of years under that common name, again, just not easy to find

Thank you! Very helpful!

However, I am curious about your statements, for this reason...

When I first recieved my polyps (ordered them from an online vendor under the name "magicians palys"), they appeared as the ones in your link to coralpedia. Over time they changed into what you see in my picture.

I had always attributed this to an acclimation of sorts. They came from a system which utilized 2 400w MHs and went into my system which was deep and only running a single 250w MH. In other words, they did change from a condensed spackled pattern to the spread-out spackled pattern over time. When the pattern was condensed it was flourescent green.

I thought nothing of it because of my experience with other corals. For instance, my green nephthea condenses itself at times and is extremely bright green, glowing. But when it is opened it is not nearly as flourescent.

Could it be that the lighting may have this effect on the "magician" palys as well? Or, are you certain that this is, in fact, a different polyp? And if so, how are you certain?

Not that it matters to me; I like them all, but I find this to be an interesting topic, and I enjoy learning.

Thanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15023205#post15023205 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by joshnola

Could it be that the lighting may have this effect on the "magician" palys as well? Or, are you certain that this is, in fact, a different polyp? And if so, how are you certain?

Not that it matters to me; I like them all, but I find this to be an interesting topic, and I enjoy learning.

Thanks.

I am certain, as well as the only way I could be certain is having both polyps long enough to see how they behave. I do agree with you that when more condensed the speckles on the speckled rpes's can look a little greenish in comparison to the blue they show for most, but it is not at all the same flourescent green that straight up matches the mouth color of all zoanthus gigantus.

Any given polyp can morph so dramatically from tank to tank that it is very difficult to tell these things apart at times as well as mistakenly think a polyp is unique when it is the same old polyp everybody has that has morphed, and the first step to really being able to distinguish one polyp from another, is understanding, as well as witnessing first hand, what can, and cannot be environmentally morphed.

It doesnt mean that one polyp is nicer than the other, and I imagine to many reading this it is pretty much a stupid conversation.....lol......but it just makes them clearly different and if you are into collecting as many unique and interesting polyps as you can get your hands on, it can make one that is hard to find much more desirable than the other as you want it in your collection, regardless if it is actually nicer or not.
 
PSHHH.. Why is it everyone in Thailand has the most badass zoas while us Americans are left out?! :(

hehehe

Edit: parishilton, FTS?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15023376#post15023376 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flyyyguy
I am certain, as well as the only way I could be certain is having both polyps long enough to see how they behave. I do agree with you that when more condensed the speckles on the speckled rpes's can look a little greenish in comparison to the blue they show for most, but it is not at all the same flourescent green that straight up matches the mouth color of all zoanthus gigantus.

Any given polyp can morph so dramatically from tank to tank that it is very difficult to tell these things apart at times as well as mistakenly think a polyp is unique when it is the same old polyp everybody has that has morphed, and the first step to really being able to distinguish one polyp from another, is understanding, as well as witnessing first hand, what can, and cannot be environmentally morphed.

It doesnt mean that one polyp is nicer than the other, and I imagine to many reading this it is pretty much a stupid conversation.....lol......but it just makes them clearly different and if you are into collecting as many unique and interesting polyps as you can get your hands on, it can make one that is hard to find much more desirable than the other as you want it in your collection, regardless if it is actually nicer or not.

Yeah, I see what you're saying; and I agree completely. It takes an experienced eye to be able to tell the subtle differences.

I do not have the experience, nor would I claim to. As mentioned, I collect them all. I don't care if it's a $10 frag or a $100 collector frag, if it looks interesting to me, and I can afford it, I'll get it!

My favorite zoas, aside from my speckled RPEs, cost me a whopping $12 and they remain my 2nd favs to this day... Dunno what they are called:

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Anyway, thanks for the link and the info. I appreciate it. And hey, I know this isn't the forum for it, but if you have any interesting frags you want to sell, shoot me a message. I just passed a semester of nursing school and I'm looking to reward myself! haha, Take it easy!

Josh
 
Those are slightly bleached out horizons. Looking their best you can get a fairly deep red skirt and a deep peach face :) Actual;ly one of those very common polyps that most lfs have for cheap when they come in, and it can be a knockout in the right conditions. Sunbursts are another super common knockout........as well as one I havent posted yet for Lily's little galaxy fetish.

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im digging through old pics now........how about a galaxy of one?? Incidentally this falls great under the morph category........I have it labeled as a solar, but only becasue I didnt know any better at the time. It IS a sunburst that I pictured above ;)

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here is another galaxy I just came across, although dont ask me what I was smoking when I took as well as post processed this pic............it is so bad I dont even know what it is nor do I remember owning it :lol:

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15025021#post15025021 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by joshnola
How can the color be brought out best?

in the case of both those horizons and the sunbursts, it takes strong lighting to make those skirts pop which is what really makes them both. But it takes time if you are picking them up from your lfs or someone with weak lights. If you do it too fast and bleach them it can take months sometimes to get it back.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15024973#post15024973 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flyyyguy
Sunbursts are another super common knockout........as well as one I havent posted yet for Lily's little galaxy fetish.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/flyyyguy/ZOAS and PALYS/sunbursts-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/flyyyguy/ZOAS and PALYS/DSC_6773.jpg


Oh, those are crazy colored tiny galaxies aren't they!? :inlove:
Do you attribute the differences between them to lighting mostly, or other things, or both?
 
I have a question for anyone; do their sparkly little faces stay the same no matter what kind of lighting (high or low) one uses? Do their faces eventually change to one solid color?

I'm also bumping this for anyone to add pics of their sparkly polyps if they wish to.

Lastly, i've asked a couple of other folks to post their lovely sparklies here so more should be coming.

Thanks all. :-)
 
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