Sps fs

Tenshoa

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Okay. First let me apologize to any of you who have PM'ed me and I haven't gotten back to yet. Life has been hectic lately.


Here is what I have available right now:

Teal Stag (larger than average frags)
Tri-Color Acro
Steve Elias Stag
Orange Setosa
Garf Bonzai
Yellow Tip Tri-color with blue polyps (larger than average frags)
Purple Bonzai
Blue Tipped Stag
ORA Miami Orchid (larger than average frags)
ORA Birdsnest (larger than average frags)
ORA Bird of Paradise (larger than average frags)
ORA Orange Monti Cap
ORA Tri-Color Valida
Mystic Sunset Monti
Red/Orange Cap (larger than average frags)

These are $20. Frags are usually from 1/2"-1 1/2".

I also have a colony of Sunny D's for $75 obo

I have a couple of others that I MAY frag but they are at a higher cost and I usually only frag them if someone is buying in quantity. Prices on them vary, starting at $25 and up.

Higher end, collector pieces, or pieces that take a while to grow such as Pro Corals Rainbow, JKR/Tyree Rainbow, Vivid's Rainbow Delight, Reef Raft Orange Passion, ORA Pearlberry, Strawberry Shortcake, Sunset Milli MAY be available for either a higher cost, if purchasing other pieces or TRADE for other high end, hard to find pieces.

I am going to place a minimum order of $50 on these. Not to be a douche, but because I simply don't have enough time in my day to set aside for every single person that only wants one $20 frag. Sorry. :-/

Higher quantities can be worked out for a discounted price.

No corals will be held without a paypal payment. First come, first serve.

Pics and a full list of corals can be found here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2448414

Thanks all!
 
Okay. First let me apologize to any of you who have PM'ed me and I haven't gotten back to yet. Life has been hectic lately.


Here is what I have available right now:

Teal Stag (larger than average frags)
Tri-Color Acro
Steve Elias Stag
Orange Setosa
Garf Bonzai
Yellow Tip Tri-color with blue polyps (larger than average frags)
Purple Bonzai
Blue Tipped Stag
ORA Miami Orchid (larger than average frags)
ORA Birdsnest (larger than average frags)
ORA Bird of Paradise (larger than average frags)
ORA Orange Monti Cap
ORA Tri-Color Valida
Mystic Sunset Monti
Red/Orange Cap (larger than average frags)

These are $20. Frags are usually from 1/2"-1 1/2".

I also have a colony of Sunny D's for $75 obo

I have a couple of others that I MAY frag but they are at a higher cost and I usually only frag them if someone is buying in quantity. Prices on them vary, starting at $25 and up.

Higher end, collector pieces, or pieces that take a while to grow such as Pro Corals Rainbow, JKR/Tyree Rainbow, Vivid's Rainbow Delight, Reef Raft Orange Passion, ORA Pearlberry, Strawberry Shortcake, Sunset Milli MAY be available for either a higher cost, if purchasing other pieces or TRADE for other high end, hard to find pieces.

I am going to place a minimum order of $50 on these. Not to be a douche, but because I simply don't have enough time in my day to set aside for every single person that only wants one $20 frag. Sorry. :-/

Higher quantities can be worked out for a discounted price.

No corals will be held without a paypal payment. First come, first serve.

Pics and a full list of corals can be found here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2448414

Thanks all!


This site turn into a CORAL FLEA MARKET, is all for profit, no for conservation or just to make sure we have that precious coral in a club member tank in case the colony die.
I just don't understand why Reef Central don't stop this people that the only reason they are in the hobby is to make a profit!

AND DON'T FORGET PURCHASES ARE $50.00 OR MORE, FOR GOD SAKE YOU MAY WANT TO GET HELP FROM THIS HOBIEST TO GET A PIECE THAT YOU REALLY WANT.

80% of people who sale on this Reef Central ORCA club page, have not even been on a metting for the club or even try to participate with the club
 
This site turn into a CORAL FLEA MARKET, is all for profit, no for conservation or just to make sure we have that precious coral in a club member tank in case the colony die.
I just don't understand why Reef Central don't stop this people that the only reason they are in the hobby is to make a profit!

AND DON'T FORGET PURCHASES ARE $50.00 OR MORE, FOR GOD SAKE YOU MAY WANT TO GET HELP FROM THIS HOBIEST TO GET A PIECE THAT YOU REALLY WANT.

80% of people who sale on this Reef Central ORCA club page, have not even been on a metting for the club or even try to participate with the club

Let me help you get your panties out of a bunch.

NONE of what I sell is for profit. It all goes into sustaining my hobby. But if you really want to get into details, people such as Ed, Rich, and myself are using money made from selling pieces to purchase pieces that you cannot get in this area so that we can then offer them to the folks in the community without them having to endure the discomfort of ordering online and paying high shipping costs. This includes great members like Ed and Chad making 5 hour drives to buy such pieces.

The idea is to make available high end, rare pieces to the community at reasonable costs. Instead of having to purchase a $500 1/2" frag directly from Reef Raft.

I am sorry that I cannot make the meetings as some of us lead a very busy life. In my case, it is work, planning a wedding, buying and moving into a new house, and having our families come in from out of town regularly. I will however, happily pay the fee to ORCA if there was a way I could do so quickly and easily. Heck, I'll even paypal it over and throw in an extra few bucks. This I have no problem with.

In regards to the minimum order, as I stated, I simply do not have the time to play trick or treat every day, as much as I'd like to in order accommodate the community. I stay in touch regularly with many members of this community and forum and am happy to offer advice and ask for advice on a regular basis. I'm sure that any of them will attest to this.

If the convenience of me selling these on my own terms is a problem for everyone, I can simply stop selling anything in this forum and thus forget about my efforts in contributing in the future.

If you sincerely have a problem with all of this, I will remember that when you are wanting something that you have been looking for for a long time and I happen to have it. If this is the consensus among the other members, I will happily withdrawal any future posts for selling. Just speak up and let me know.

However, this forum is no different in content from high traffic forums such as Tampa and South Florida. Not really sure how or why you see it differently.

I don't need this hobby to make money. I do fine on my own. Nor do I need this forum to sell corals. I do it because I feel that these people deserve it first, ahead of random craigslist folks. Simply BECAUSE they contribute here.
 
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Look to fix this minimum purchase and bickering just leave your key under the door mat and have each visitor leave the cash in different places around the house.

Look there even made an Easter egg hunt game.

Your welcome :spin1:

Honestly, my goals for sps is to obtain the harder to find corals from locations such as reef raft and propagate them and instead of selling to all local buyers, I want to have a handful of true sps keepers in my vicinity that have proven keeping sps longer than a year and give that propagated coral to them.
Then they can do what they want with them once grown out.

This keeps track of the lineage for certain species as well as makes newer sps hobbyist strive to practice great husbandry for the long haul. Not just one year and be out. Or at least near me.

I know you don't do this for a profit though so I am not going against you parting out with some pieces. Please don't stop doing what your doing as we are after the same goal. Bringing harder to find pieces to our local area. :beer:
 
Do not take it personal, that is just my opinion, and believe me I do those trips as well to get nice pieces, for my personal enjoyment, and save some money as well.
You are in the ORCA forum page, and the focus of this club may be as honorable as yours to save money to the rest of us. as long as we have $50.00 or more
Since your are so busy to even attend at the ORCA meetings, here is the mission statement of the club.
ORCA is a non-profit organization of aquarists dedicated to the care and conservation of marine life kept in reef aquariums. Our primary objective is to educate other area reef keepers on the requirements of caring for reef inverts, fish and coral propagation.

Our main goals are:
» Education of the Reef Aquarist
» Explain how to care for and propagate coral
» Disseminate information from books and the Internet
» Provide a network of knowledgeable reef keepers
» Supply a source of propagated corals for other members, trough our Frag auctions

I have no problem with you helping the people around, but if you look at your list of corals, 90% of them are no rare,expensive or hard to get corals, and you then mention some other rare corals that you will price as the CUSTOMERS SHOW UP at your house with $50.00 or more dollars.
Pure Flea Market sales
 
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Do not take it personal, that is just my opinion, and believe me I do those trips as well to get nice pieces, for my personal enjoyment, and save some money as well.
You are in the ORCA forum page, and the focus of this club may be as honorable as yours to save money to the rest of us. as long as we have $50.00 or more
Since your are so busy to even attend at the ORCA meetings, here is the mission statement of the club.
ORCA is a non-profit organization of aquarists dedicated to the care and conservation of marine life kept in reef aquariums. Our primary objective is to educate other area reef keepers on the requirements of caring for reef inverts, fish and coral propagation.

Our main goals are:
» Education of the Reef Aquarist
» Explain how to care for and propagate coral
» Disseminate information from books and the Internet
» Provide a network of knowledgeable reef keepers
» Supply a source of propagated corals for other members, trough our Frag auctions

I have no opposition to those goals and try to contribute to each and every one of them with anyone I come in contact with. And as I previously stated, I think that any of those folks will attest to it.

You know what I like best about selling pieces? Meeting the people. Most times they hang around for an hour or two and we talk a lot about aquarium husbandry as well as our beliefs. I honestly can't say a single bad thing about anyone I have met selling OR buying. And have taken with me some valuable information and hopefully have given some back. Isn't that the next best thing to attending the meetings? Isn't that what you want to breed in the community?

The $50 thing for me was a little tongue in cheek even as I typed it, but I could not think of a better way to mitigate the time consumption. It is very difficult for me to plan my schedule around a series of visits and so my options are not to sell any at all, or contribute as much as I can. I'm not saying that I can't make exceptions, but to speak to the masses, that's what I am left with. The corals aren't going anywhere. People can and do PM me regularly asking about pieces that are less than that, to which I have sold. But right now, my life is going a million miles per hour.

But I want you to understand that I'm not sitting around stockpiling money from sales. In fact, I would MUCH rather trade for corals than sell them. But then that would be limiting just as many people, if not more.

I am happy to discuss further and you are welcome to PM me, call me, or text me. I love this hobby. I love the people in it. I love sharing, whether it be info or corals. Heck, you've even seen me offer ideas as to how to get more people together.

There is a strong sense of comradery I have with local fellow enthusiasts. Maybe more than you are seeing. I am certain that there are ways to create more unity. I know this because I listen to every one of them. And I'm happy to share whatever knowledge or advice I have in making it happen. All you have to do is ask. But slapping people's hands and lashing out is a bit counter-productive.

I am not here to argue with anyone.

Just let me know what I can do to help.

(FYI. I am a Business Development Manager for my work. Happy to share my skills)
 
You just have help me, to understand your point very well, even if I have to agree to disagree.
I do share very similar if not the same feeling towards the hobby and others on it, as you do
 
Sps fs

Keep doing what your doing, don't let the narrow minded focus of others deter you from doing so. I have been an ORCA member, and been to the meetings, frag swap, etc. and have no issue with the minimum $50 purchase price and completely understand your reasoning.

You contribute often to this forum and the support of others. Offering propagated corals is great way to minimize the impact on the natural reef systems. Which is what we all should be striving to do anyway.

Keep it up..
 
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This site turn into a CORAL FLEA MARKET, is all for profit, no for conservation or just to make sure we have that precious coral in a club member tank in case the colony die.
I just don't understand why Reef Central don't stop this people that the only reason they are in the hobby is to make a profit!

AND DON'T FORGET PURCHASES ARE $50.00 OR MORE, FOR GOD SAKE YOU MAY WANT TO GET HELP FROM THIS HOBIEST TO GET A PIECE THAT YOU REALLY WANT.

80% of people who sale on this Reef Central ORCA club page, have not even been on a metting for the club or even try to participate with the club

Tech, the meetings are always out in BFE! Push to get them over to the east side...:) Have you been to the other web forums lately? They are stupid crazy over there (not to mention names). Corals are not cheap and selling them from a grow out doesn't return a profit. I have been doing this for some time and have yet to see how selling frags doesn't benefit the hobby. I actually turn right around and spend money recovered on more coral or equipment to continue on with my obsession. I have also seen others and myself give away frags just to have them turn around and flip them like a house. To each there own. It goes both ways.

Anyways...God Bless America and this free country! Thanks for the entertainment tonight! I enjoyed a good read :)
 
Wow.....

Anyway, I see the tank has been coming along nicely. I'd be interested in getting a price for these:
JKR/Tyree Rainbow, Vivid's Rainbow Delight, Reef Raft Orange Passion, Strawberry Shortcake, Sunset Milli

I have several that I'm pretty sure no one around has, but they aren't quite ready for fragging yet. Shoot me a pm with some prices please.
 
Anyways..........

Just finished dipping and mounting the frags I got from Tenshoa. Very beautiful tank and a lot of nice corals to choose from. I've picked up over ten frags of high end SPS for a very good price, especially comparing to original retail prices for such pieces.

As nice as it would be to just share corals for free, at some point someone has to pay for them and it doesn't seem fair for that person to take the hit while others just take the frags later for free. We not quite living in a communism society yet such as Star Trek universe :P

Thanks!
 
You just have help me, to understand your point very well, even if I have to agree to disagree.
I do share very similar if not the same feeling towards the hobby and others on it, as you do

If you really have a problem start a thread of your own this doesnt sound like a personal issue to be filling his thread with...
 
Thanks, Raiden. Great to meet you! Let me know if you have any issues.

Russ, I will shoot you a PM tomorrow.
 
I appreciate anyone buying/selling/trading drygoods/livestock/advice on this forum even when I don't take advantage.

The end.
 
Sps fs

Tech, the meetings are always out in BFE! Push to get them over to the east side...:)



We try and have meetings all over town to accommodate all as orlando is so sprawled. But at the end we end up at where members are willing to host. It's great fun taking reef and seeing members setups. It is crazy at times trying to catch up with friends and the event activities and trying to meeting new people. To attract east siders. In 2014 We did have a meeting in oviedo, top shelf and aqua fx. But alas we can't please all. Some come from tampa and Daytona (hard core). Reminder non-members are welcome to all regular meetings.

( shame less plug. Next regular meeting will be a frag swap In Jan. usually the 4th sat of month. Not positive where yet. Probably in BFE hear the wether is nice this time of year. :-). )


Swirly I have herd great things about you and your tank and hope to meet soon.


Tensoha
You have some nice peices. Previous tank post look great.
 
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