SPS PREADATORS Red bugs, AEFW's ,Monti nudis and Sea spiders. Pictures Inside

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7931347#post7931347 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by impur
Teddybear crab!

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Question are these crabs bad then ?
 
most definitely.. they are hazardous to fish, corals, snails, shrimp, etc. You name it and they will try to eat it.
 
will they eat the acro itself though , becase i found one in my colony and half of the color is missing ... didnt know cause I cant find red bugs or anything else wrong with it, and my other colonies are doing fine, now there is still color in the tips where it is white will the colony recover since I have pulled him out ?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8234333#post8234333 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sparkss
yes, they will eat the flesh off of SPS

Just found a Teddy Bear this am munching on the tip of an acro frag... I tried to get him but he moved out of reach deep towards the center. I have a cleaner crab associated with this frag - stays with it all the time - and he is 10X bigger than the teddy bear... will he act as a preditor of the teddy bear? Also, will the tip regenerate? :confused:
 
i have only found RB's on 2 colonies (lokani and a tri-color) but in low numbers. i have been living with them for a few month and have not seen anywhere near the amount on a single coral as some of these pics. my question is are there diff types of RB's, some more prolific/destuctive than others or is there something keeping their numbers down? i think Melev mentioned there was a "harmless" type. if there are two types then there could easily be 3 or more out there. can anyone help prove or disprove this theory?
 
well, i spoke too soon. i did some minor re-aquascaping tonight and examined each colony. i found quite a few bugs on 5 diff colonies. im going to be making a trip to the vet ASAP because ive noticed a significant decline in the color of my purple monsterish colony and a few other frags. i cant wait to see how good everything looks with out these little ba5tard5 all over them.
-nick
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8243957#post8243957 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by exoticaquatix
i have only found RB's on 2 colonies (lokani and a tri-color) but in low numbers. i have been living with them for a few month and have not seen anywhere near the amount on a single coral as some of these pics. my question is are there diff types of RB's, some more prolific/destuctive than others or is there something keeping their numbers down? i think Melev mentioned there was a "harmless" type. if there are two types then there could easily be 3 or more out there. can anyone help prove or disprove this theory?

I believe you are thinking about a discussion about flatworms, or possibly asterinas (tiny starfish). I don't know if there are more than one kind of red bugs.
 
well, i guess you would know better than me. haha. i have seen a few posts suggesting that the people who have problems with red bugs and the people who are living with them with no ill effects may have different types. the population of RB's in mt tank has since exploded and as soon as i can get my last shrimp out of my tank the intercepter is going in. Have most people gotten away with only one treatment or are 2 or 3 really nessesary as stated on erics site? i have a 50lb dog size pill and figure its good for half of the 380 gallons a 100lb dog pill will treat. i believe its 11.5 mg of the active ingredient instead of 23mg. that would be 190 gallons by my math (thank you Calc II). 190/3 is 63.33 which would be really close to an underdose. id rather do 2 treatments at 1.5 strength. does this sound like a better plan? thanks for all the great info so far guys.
-nick
 
great question about the different types of red bugs and how destructive each type is. i would also like to know this.

also, just thought id throw this question out there.
did ne1 have negitive effects with interceptor?

i dont see my bugs doing ne harm but i do notice their population increasing... what should i do. bomb them? im worried my pod, snail, and crab population will all die...
 
SHOT VERSION:
Found green body/red head tiny flatworms inside the polyps of a frag I picked up today.

LONG VERSION:
I picked up a frag from a (source) today that seemed to be doing well other then the fact it did not have great PE. I now dip everything before it goes in the tank so as I was dipping I noticed that little red spots started comming out of the polyps. I inspected the coral thinking RB where hiding deep in the coral itself. After about 15 minutes of soaking in 20 drops of lugols to 1/2 gallon of tank water I decided FW dip. That made a few of these green body red head flat worms pop out. Back to the lugols dip they went for another 15 minutes. All popped out. Put the coral in the tank and now its RTNed and almost all the polyps have bailed. We will see what happens tomorrow..

I couldnt get pictures but I wil try to get some from the source..
Any one seen these?
 
Pictures would have been really good in this case, as that sounds quite odd. Sorry your new coral didn't survive. That was a LOT of iodine in your dip. When I test for AEFW, I only use 4 drops of Lugol's for a quart of water. And it is only for a few minutes, at the most.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8233724#post8233724 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CaptiveReefer03
Question are these crabs bad then ?

I got some aquacultured small colonies a few months ago and almost every one had a similar looking crab. The entire crab is about as big as my thumbnail if you include the span of its legs.

I noticed recently that the tips of various acro's were scraped off and then a tort frag has similar lesions then another acro and I couldn't find any flatworms bugs or anything else.

I removed the crab in that area (well killed him in the attempt actually) and the tort quickly healed.

I was told these guys were harmless porcelain crabs but I have noticed they munch sps vigorously at times. The odd thing is that they didn't do all that much damage for the first few months. I think feeding frequency has dropped off in this tank however (my staff feeds it) and so the crabs are getting hungry.
 
Red bugs are killed with Interceptor, a medication that is made for Dogs and Cats that has to be obtained from your local vet.
 
honda, i would've made a small qt tank for ur coral to give it resting periods between the dips. 15 minute iodine, a few hours of regular tank water, then fw dip, then rest period again...
 
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