stale saltwater

maybe the containers are not leaching, maybe everyones water had hight TDS readings? could that be a possibility?
 
maybe they aren't made consistantly? I 've been using them butin the heated SW one, the brown is very noticeable. Doesn't test for phosphates though. Maybe something else? I am suspect of the container. RO/DI TDS meter shows output at 0.
 
You need to make sure it is a food safe rubbermaid brute. I know for sure the gray ones are and have no problems with those. I have 2 of the 32 gallon and 1 of the 44 gallon.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11498747#post11498747 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cp3823
really? everyone else has been saying that they have had problems with it?

Really who and where is that post? High TDS will cause you algae problems. That is why most people make their own water and use RODI to get 0 TDS.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11499635#post11499635 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jdhanover
maybe they aren't made consistantly? I 've been using them butin the heated SW one, the brown is very noticeable. Doesn't test for phosphates though. Maybe something else? I am suspect of the container. RO/DI TDS meter shows output at 0.

Is yours food grade?
 
I think that a lot of people call most plastic trash cans "Brute". The grey ones made by Rubbermade that have the tradename "Brute" are food-safe. Thats good enough for me. There are no other colors of "Brute" that I know of. As far as I know the real ones are food-safe and dont cause problems for aquarium use. The 44 gallon ones are Brute and the 32 gallon ones are something different. i have used both and the Brute ones are aquarium safe for me.
I could be completely wrong....

Edit: I just checked. The 44 gallon grey Brute trashcan is stock but it does come in other sizes and colors as a special order. i was wrong heh. Gray, White and Yellow are USDA Meat & Poultry Equipment Group Listed and assist in complying with HACCP guidelines.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11499755#post11499755 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Engine 7
I think that a lot of people call most plastic trash cans "Brute". The grey ones made by Rubbermade that have the tradename "Brute" are food-safe. Thats good enough for me. There are no other colors of "Brute" that I know of. As far as I know the real ones are food-safe and dont cause problems for aquarium use. The 44 gallon ones are Brute and the 32 gallon ones are something different. i have used both and the Brute ones are aquarium safe for me.
I could be completely wrong....

Edit: I just checked. The 44 gallon grey Brute trashcan is stock but it does come in other sizes and colors as a special order. i was wrong heh. Gray, White and Yellow are USDA Meat & Poultry Equipment Group Listed and assist in complying with HACCP guidelines.

Actually the 32 gallon Brute cans are gray and food safe. They are sold at Sam's Club.
 
hope you dont mind me snagging your post rod

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11489862#post11489862 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rod Buehler
I would have rather seen a link to that post .

Sorry, I didnt mean for it to sound that way. It was meant with a sarcastic tone/smile because we/I knew that a link wouldnt have made it long on this site :D

It was more of the smell that concerned me than the phosphates, Have you all tried to leave your brute covered for a few days weeks? and then took a whiff?

As I posted in the original post, some people are using them with success, but the smell drove me away.. The phosphates caused me to push the gas pedal harder :D

Food grade and phosphates: A product can have phosphates and still be considered food grade. You should see the water foam up when I am rinsing all of the tripolyphosphate of of my FRESH all natural sea food seafood. 98% of the seafood that you purchase weather its fresh or frozen is loaded with tripolyphosphate, and its not on the label or ingredient list. SOmeone posted a pic of a skimmer with soap suds awhile ago.. If you remember that pic, its similar to the foam you get when rinsing seafood all from the "food grade" tripolyphosphate.
 
Have you all tried to leave your brute covered for a few days weeks? and then took a whiff?
Is this just plain RO water or does it smell w/salt added too? I make my top off water directly into 5g containers I can carry upstairs daily (I have 2--always making 1), poured into an old salt bucket & scooped out with a pitcher, when needed.

My SW is made in the Brute can & as soon as it's filled w/RODI water, I add salt (it's already heated). Will that make a difference? I leave it covered until I need it, sometimes for up tp 2 weeks. Never smells bad.
 
I think that the smell is coming from somewhere besides the container. It could come from dirty pumps that were used in the tank and bringing bacteria or whatever into the new water and poluting it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11503092#post11503092 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rod Buehler
98% of the seafood that you purchase weather its fresh or frozen is loaded with tripolyphosphate, and its not on the label or ingredient list. SOmeone posted a pic of a skimmer with soap suds awhile ago.. If you remember that pic, its similar to the foam you get when rinsing seafood all from the "food grade" tripolyphosphate.
FWIW, I have noticed HUGE foam after tossing a blended shrimp into a tank for cycling.

I had taken a previously frozen shrimp on ice, and stuck it in the blender with 250cc of water. As soon as it hit the SW, I had foam shooting out of the powerheads. It was as if someone poured detergent right into the tank! It was as if Lucille Ball was helping to cycle my tank!
 
Eeeeeewwwww! I know a lot of folks do it but I don't kow why anyone would want rotting shrimp to cycle a tank. NIMFT!
 
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