Started working on a 120 display

Frick

AZ FRAG President
I haven't done a real display tank that I have been proud of since i have been in Arizona. I have done a few frag hoarding tanks but they were not pleasing to the eye. I have been wanting to do a 4' 120 for a while, and had many ideas running through my head on how I would execute it. I bought a used 120 set up from one of our AZ FRAG members that moved to Cali over the summer. It came with a canopy and stand cover with doors, but I am not going to use them. Although, with out them this tank is going to need a lot of cleaning. So that is what I am doing on my two days off for the Holidays. Cleaning this bad boy up.




it will sit against a 6' long wall adjacent from my Kitchen. On the other side of he wall is my laundry room where my 75 gallon is set up now. My plan so far is to set this up and tie the plumbing in with the 75 through the wall. Then once it is stable and I get the corals moved over form the 75 to the 120. I think I am going to take the 75 down and put a shorter sump with frag tank above that sump. So the 120 will have nothing below it except two return lines and two overflow pipes that go through the wall and in the sump, that would be located in the laundry room. Seems complicated and it probably will be.

Equipment is going to be 2 Kessils A360W-E, DC DIY skimmer, Bubble Magus 150 AT Ca reactor, two Vor Tech MP-40Ws, and my Apex controller. Still not sure about the return pump. I'l probably build a Kalk reactor to run in the top-off chamber of my sump. And since I tend to understock with fish I think I am going to skip the refugium and just go for an oversized skimmer and some kind of thorough mechanical filtration. Probably plumb some media reactors in just in case. Going for simplicity tho.

For aquascaping I am thinking minimalist. No sand, and either little or no live rock. I'll probably do another tank build when I get more together for it. But thought I would share what I have started.

What are your thoughts so far?
 
It looks like it has a lot of potential with a little elbow grease. I am sure you know what you are doing but I am confused by the concept of possibly having no live rock. I thought live rock was very important for the filtration having bacteria on it as part of the nitrogen cycle. I guess if live rock is in the sump or does the De-nitrofying bacteria grow like on the glass or something? As far as the bare bottom are there any options like painting the bottom of the glass white or light brown to kind of look like sand.
 
It looks like it has a lot of potential with a little elbow grease. I am sure you know what you are doing but I am confused by the concept of possibly having no live rock. I thought live rock was very important for the filtration having bacteria on it as part of the nitrogen cycle. I guess if live rock is in the sump or does the De-nitrofying bacteria grow like on the glass or something? As far as the bare bottom are there any options like painting the bottom of the glass white or light brown to kind of look like sand.

I have a BB tank and after a while the bottom of the tank will get covered with coralline algae. You could paint the bottom of the tank on the outside. I do have some 3/4" thick white styrofoam between the stand and the tank.

My tank is healthier and my skimmer produces more skim mate since I went BB. It does take a little getting used to but I strongly encourage BB tank set ups

You can always put your live rock in the sump
 
Nice! I think going through that wall and plumbing to the 75 is a great idea. Looking forward to seeing it progress. Let me know if you need a hand with anything.
 
It looks like it has a lot of potential with a little elbow grease. I am sure you know what you are doing but I am confused by the concept of possibly having no live rock. I thought live rock was very important for the filtration having bacteria on it as part of the nitrogen cycle. I guess if live rock is in the sump or does the De-nitrofying bacteria grow like on the glass or something? As far as the bare bottom are there any options like painting the bottom of the glass white or light brown to kind of look like sand.

As far as my opinion goes, The main reason for having live rock in an aquarium would be to provide an anaerobic bacteria substrate, filtration wise. I am not going to have a lot of fish in there so I shouldn't need it. The sump will be big enough if I change my mine tho.

For a structure I am going to try something different instead of live rock. I want to suspend everything off the bottom which will eventually get covered in coralline. Paint will come off. I have seen people use a sheet of star board, but that will get coralline on it to. I've done pretty good with the past bare bottom tank I've done in the past. Seems to fit my methods.
 
I have a BB tank and after a while the bottom of the tank will get covered with coralline algae. You could paint the bottom of the tank on the outside. I do have some 3/4" thick white styrofoam between the stand and the tank.

My tank is healthier and my skimmer produces more skim mate since I went BB. It does take a little getting used to but I strongly encourage BB tank set ups

You can always put your live rock in the sump

Yep. And another reason I am doing bare bottom is to concentrate on good water flow. the sand will just get in the way, as well as the live rock.
 
I love barebottom tanks. This is going to be good. Are you thinking acrylic rods for holding up coral (or suspending them from a brace at the top?)?

What are you up to
 
I love barebottom tanks. This is going to be good. Are you thinking acrylic rods for holding up coral (or suspending them from a brace at the top?)?

What are you up to

I am probably going to to several long acrylic rods that mount to an acrylic mounts silicone to the back glass.
 
I have a bare bottom 60 gal cube & the bottom needs to be scraped from algae. After reading the above reply's I also question not using live rock.
 
Frick,

If you need some help cleaning the tank or plumbing it on a weekend let me know. not sure what area of Tempe you live in. I live near the apache / price light rail stop. I'm sure the work I would volunteer for is nothing compared to the knowledge I would learn.
 
I have a bare bottom 60 gal cube & the bottom needs to be scraped from algae. After reading the above reply's I also question not using live rock.

No or minimal live rock should help keep detritus down and give pest less or no place to hide. I will loose that buffering capacity, but the Ca reactor should help take care of that.

Following along.

Good to see you're getting that tank off the patio!

Had to start doing something before you guys submit me to the show Hoarders. LOL

Frick,

If you need some help cleaning the tank or plumbing it on a weekend let me know. not sure what area of Tempe you live in. I live near the apache / price light rail stop. I'm sure the work I would volunteer for is nothing compared to the knowledge I would learn.

Thanks. Only thing I needed help with is lifting it but I had someone help me that was around any ways. I gave it a vinegar bath this weekend but it looks like it will need another.

hey, no rock, no sand, more room for corals! :)

interested to see how you pull it off aesthetically, subscribed!

More corals and more flow for the corals. :dance:
 
gyre? (you should stop by and see my conversion, btw)

Kind of. I will see how it works out with the set up. If not I will probably just stick with one Vortech on each side.

I would love to see how yours is going.
 
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