starting 210g......pump advice
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jsteidl
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The Dart is the name of the pump. 1 size only. Take a look here:
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=MM1136
Hope that helps.
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=MM1136
Hope that helps.
anjhof
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Most people here would tell you that the dart would be too much flow through your sump. I would agree. You could get a Eheim 1262 pump. I am about to set up a 210 tank too and plan on having a 1262 eheim pump and a Quiet One 3000 in my sump. Sounds like a lot of people on this site use 2 pumps in their sump on a 210. Surprisingly 2 smaller pumps are more efficient in terms of electricity usage than 1 larger pump.
If you are going to need more flow - depends on what you plan to keep - you can add a dart for a closed loop. This is what I plan on doing.
If you are going to need more flow - depends on what you plan to keep - you can add a dart for a closed loop. This is what I plan on doing.
WDLV
Skunk Hybrid Freak
On my 210 I'm running two mag 12 pumps. They are inexpensive, but they're also cheap and blamed for a lot of heat issues.
They work fine for me though. I try to run two of everything that is life support for redundancy... in case one fails.
For my closed loops I run 2 sequence reeflo Barracudas.
I run a CL on each side with a 2" intake and three 1" outputs. I have a 2" drain on either side.
No flow is directed a the surface. You could do your laundry in this thing.
They work fine for me though. I try to run two of everything that is life support for redundancy... in case one fails.
For my closed loops I run 2 sequence reeflo Barracudas.
I run a CL on each side with a 2" intake and three 1" outputs. I have a 2" drain on either side.
No flow is directed a the surface. You could do your laundry in this thing.
I am getting ready to set up my 240 cube, im going to use Iwaki MD40RLXT for return/feed the chiller and split to my prop tank. You don't need that much water flow through your sump. Either your overflow box can't handle the amount of water return or you will over flow your tank. If you used such strong pump for return, you may get micro bubble.
It all depends on how you want your system set up. For me and my tanks, I prefer to have no/as little as possible equipment in the tank.
On my 72G Bowfront, I have the ehiem 1262 in my sump. It supplies a SCWD that has a eductor on each output. That is all that is seen in the tank, 2 eductors and they can barley be seen as the background is black, same as the eductors. That's all the flow in that tank.
For my 400G tank, I have 2 Hammerhead pumps, over 5000GPH each. One is my return from my sump and it was set up in a manifold over the top back into the tank. I'm changing that to go into a OM4 way with a output at each corner so that I can have some wave action in the tank. I have a 30G and 90 G sump on the system. Beleive it or not, with over 5000GPH flow in the 90G sump, I still run a small powerhead in there to agaitate the surface, otherwise it becomes stagnant. The input to the sump is in a sectioned off chamber so I guess it's impeding the surface aggatition.
My other Hammerhead is on a C/L that intakes from 2 ports in the bottom of the tank and returns out 4 jacussi jets in the side of my overflow box. I'm going to be changing that a bit by adding pipes and eductors to run behind the rockwork and increase my flow.
If your interested, I do have a Sequence Baracuda pump available for sale as I'm not going to be using it. PM me if interested.
On my 72G Bowfront, I have the ehiem 1262 in my sump. It supplies a SCWD that has a eductor on each output. That is all that is seen in the tank, 2 eductors and they can barley be seen as the background is black, same as the eductors. That's all the flow in that tank.
For my 400G tank, I have 2 Hammerhead pumps, over 5000GPH each. One is my return from my sump and it was set up in a manifold over the top back into the tank. I'm changing that to go into a OM4 way with a output at each corner so that I can have some wave action in the tank. I have a 30G and 90 G sump on the system. Beleive it or not, with over 5000GPH flow in the 90G sump, I still run a small powerhead in there to agaitate the surface, otherwise it becomes stagnant. The input to the sump is in a sectioned off chamber so I guess it's impeding the surface aggatition.
My other Hammerhead is on a C/L that intakes from 2 ports in the bottom of the tank and returns out 4 jacussi jets in the side of my overflow box. I'm going to be changing that a bit by adding pipes and eductors to run behind the rockwork and increase my flow.
If your interested, I do have a Sequence Baracuda pump available for sale as I'm not going to be using it. PM me if interested.
WDLV
Skunk Hybrid Freak
I think that this is a difficult question to analize because the size of the sump, the water level in the sump, and the diameter of the overflows are all factors to consider.
If I had a 30 gallon sump with 1" drains I would probably not exceed 1500GPH on the return. But because I have a 100 gallon rubbermaid horse trough and two 2" drains, it's really not much of a consideration for me.
I have my system built into the wall and have a lot more options in terms of sump size than someone who is trying to fit everything under the stand.
I guess the question is... What size is your sump, and what size are your drains? You don't want to exceed the amount that one overflow can handle in case the other clogs.
If I had a 30 gallon sump with 1" drains I would probably not exceed 1500GPH on the return. But because I have a 100 gallon rubbermaid horse trough and two 2" drains, it's really not much of a consideration for me.
I have my system built into the wall and have a lot more options in terms of sump size than someone who is trying to fit everything under the stand.
I guess the question is... What size is your sump, and what size are your drains? You don't want to exceed the amount that one overflow can handle in case the other clogs.
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