For the benefit of everyone else reading, please understand that this is not the first time Charlie has attacked the leadership of this club. People work very hard, including Paul Whitby and myself, and don't deserve to be treated as such. I apologize in advance if the above is either harsh or too intense. However, after many such occurrences from Charlie, sometimes in the forum and sometimes off the public radar, I no longer have the patience to mince words. The below was written & re-written with great care. Take it as you like.
And for those who aren't familiar with me, I am your friendly not-quite-in-the-neighborhood-anymore volunteer webmaster and calendar designer........
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11766448#post11766448 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by VCoo71
im playing nice! i would just prefer that my info be removed from that site! as it isint safe ... just lke dugg said it put trojans on his comp ....... if i could remove it myself i would!
now please once again mycomas mods please remove my info from there
Charlie, as usual, your statements here are both incredibly inappropriate and completely incorrect.
First, you infer that you somehow cannot remove yourself from the COMAS website or forum. You passionately come across as if we are somehow holding your account on our system hostage or whatnot. That is completely untrue and you know it. You are being purposefully difficult and I do not appreciate your attempt to spread this misinformation, which is EXACTLY what you are KNOWINGLY trying to do.
Anyone can at any point remove their account on the COMAS website and forum. This is the same as ANY OTHER REASONABLE SITE ON THE WEB! And you know this. Nobody is stopping you from removing your subscriptions, etc, AND YOU KNOW THIS! You can also easily set yourself up to NOT receive emails or PMs, etc.
Second, you blatantly accuse the COMAS site as being unsafe. This is completely untrue and you know it as well. There is nothing we can do as admins to stop someone from creating an account and spamming people. This has happened a number of times on Reef Central itself. We cannot prevent that more then by taking the steps that are already in place. Rather, we can only deal with it when it happens.
When an account is created, measures are taken to make sure that human action is required as to avoid scripted spamming, etc. Measures are taken to assure that there is a real email address is behind the account. Basically, this is what is expected and normal on the web.
From what I have heard, after the initial spamming, there have not been repeats. The account for the offending user will be terminated and he will be blocked from recreating. That does not mean he won't go around the system, but we will do the best we can. We are using top quality software and have everything updated properly.
Also, you CANNOT take away the personal responsibility of a computer user. However, as we are all at different levels in the area of computer savvy-ness, let me post a basic list of suggestions. For more advise, do a google search on internet / computer security, etc. I am SURE good tutorials can be found.
1. The first rule of basic internet safety is to know WHAT you are doing at all times. Your computer WILL NOT install a virus, trojan or spyware without being told to do so. The trick, rather, is to learn how you may accidentally tell your computer to do so. The moral of the story is - before you click, understand what you are clicking.
2. Programs should SELDOM be executed from the internet. This is not the same as watching videos, playing a game on a website, etc. That should be fine. If a website tries to trick you into running something, your web browsers or email clients should warn you and ask if you really want that to happen. Unless you meant it to happen, say now. THINK BEFORE YOU CLICK!
3. The only case that a browser or email client will NOT warn you is if you are using an older version of the program and have not updated it with security patches, etc. If this is the case, fix it now or unplug your internet connection. You MUST stay up to date with such bug fixes, etc.
4. If you do end up with a trojan or something, don't find yourself making the OH SO COMMON mistake of assuming it came from a specific place. Unless you are a licensed computer geek (ok, we don't carry badges), then you are not likely to be able to identify that it came from a specific source.
Probably 99/100 times, people are not even aware when a trojan is installed. And then when they do make the unpleasant discovery, they make the instant leap of logic that it came from the most recent action they took. Again, this is not usually correct.
5. In the above story, Dugg did not specifically KNOW that something came from the COMAS spam bit. In my rather experienced opinion, it is relatively likely that the issues may have arisen elsewhere. Anyhow, not real important there....
THE ANSWER
First, don't click on things without knowing what it is. And before you DO choose to install something, ask a computer geek if it is safe.
Second, use good detection methods....REGULARLY!
A couple excellent spyware removal tools include
Spybot Search & Destroy and
Ad Aware. These are FREE and extremely easy to use. They DO take a bit of time to do a proper full scan, but that is of course worth it.
This should be ran at least weekly, but can be scheduled to run during off hours (like overnight).
If you have any specific questions, please FEEL FREE to ask me. I am MORE then happy to help with such issues, etc. I can be PMed here, contacted via the COMAS website or forum, or emailed via
captbunzo@gmail.com.