Sump Diagram, any Flaws?

[sjm817]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13477470#post13477470 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EvMiBo
So scott, does that mean you're supporting the double ball valve on the return line, or only one? I feel like you validated both sort of..

There isn't always a right and a wrong answer. In this case, either will work depending on the pump used and the desired flow rate. If the GPH of what is sent to the display is in the range of what is wanted with the fuge flow diversion, there is no need to put a valve on the display return leg. If the pump is on the large size, and you also want to restrict flow to the display, then a valve is needed there.

 

[checkx1]

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This one has my vote.
Very similiar to the one I'm drawing up - minus the value on drain since
one is incorporated on the return to dt.

 

[EvMiBo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13477542#post13477542 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sjm817
There isn't always a right and a wrong answer. In this case, either will work depending on the pump used and the desired flow rate. If the GPH of what is sent to the display is in the range of what is wanted with the fuge flow diversion, there is no need to put a valve on the display return leg. If the pump is on the large size, and you also want to restrict flow to the display, then a valve is needed there.

The pump being used is a Ocean Runner 3500. I don't really want to restrict any flow to the DT. I guess it could work either way, seems like there's no wrong answer.

 

[SoulFish]

Wow thanks guys, this is really helping me understand alot more about this. I hear what you guys are saying about making sure the fuge gets alot of nutrients for the life in there. I think thought I'll try this one below. Atleast now it sort of seems to be personal preference. The reason I think this one will work better for me is it will run a bit cleaner. Since I will have more fish than coral this may reduce the amount of waste cleanup. Here's why I think this one will work better for my situation:

1. Socks, will provide better mechanical filtration to remove large debris IE big fish poop
2. By having the skimmer on the left of the fuge area, it will reduce microbubbles
3. The copeopods (SP?) that do make it out only have to ride the return pump line back to the tank, they don't have to wizz around the skimmer first.
4. Bu removing the 2 baffles next to the pump it will make the copeopods return a bit easier than having to go through a bubble trap.
5. The macro algae removes absorbs excess nutrients, such as nitrates and phosphates. The skimmer will not remove all of it. So the fuge should get some nutrients, not as much but still enough to support life.
6. I like the idea of not having large fish turds plucking into the fuge personally.

And if it doesnt work great I'm open to move it around. It would not be that hard given the design to just turn it around backwards and swap the return and flow section.

 

[sjm817]

Looking good. A couple of small things.
Maybe it has been covered, but what are the valves on the drains for? When would you want to close a drain?

Its just the pic, but use the biggest socks you can fit. I use the 7"x16" and they work out very well.

Your return is VERY small. I assume you are planning on an auto topoff? Can you modify the diagram showing actual dimensions?

That bubble trap is spaced too closely to do any good.

have you thought about a 75G instead of the 55G?

Where will the heaters go?

Ok, maybe more than a couple things

 

[EvMiBo]

sjm covered this pretty much, but nearly all of your evaporation will showup in your return section. So it definitely needs to be larger so you can fit your ATO in there, along with your heater if you decide to put it in there too.

 

[reeferkeeper]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13488506#post13488506 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EvMiBo
sjm covered this pretty much, but nearly all of your evaporation will showup in your return section. So it definitely needs to be larger so you can fit your ATO in there, along with your heater if you decide to put it in there too.

Just wondering, should he also make the divider between the fuge and the return pump shorter than the last divider between the bubble trap and the fuge so the water will get some oxygen added to it and get it to flow in the desired direction?

 

[sjm817]

You can, but in the return section, keep that drop very small or you will create bubbles from the waterfall that the pump can pickup.