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sump help
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please explain, I'm not following
oneradtek202
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heres my setup. kinda backwards but it works well lol, late night at work forced me to do this
cardiffgiant
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If you're teeing off for a fuge, I'd consider a mag 9 or a eheim 1262. Prior to the basement sump, I used the eheim 1262 under my 90 with a 29 sump. It was a very similar configuration to what you are planning.
Here is a pic of my old sump. If I had to do this set up over again, I would have gone with 10-12" of water in the skimmer chamber, and would have gone with 2 less baffles and more distance between them between the skimmer chamber and return chamber.
Here is a pic of my old sump. If I had to do this set up over again, I would have gone with 10-12" of water in the skimmer chamber, and would have gone with 2 less baffles and more distance between them between the skimmer chamber and return chamber.
A lot of people recomend 10X turnover from the return pump (ie- 10 times the tank size per hour). Personally I don't think you need this & I believe most folks that think they have 10x have quite a bit less. There was a thread on this in the last year. Measured my 120 at something like 3.5x which is low. 5 is a good number.
Keep in mind that I'm referring to real turnover after losses from plumbing.
I don't remember skimmer efficiency off the top of my head, from memory 5x to 10x made no difference due to the lack of skimmer efficiency. There's an article on advanced aquarist about this. Too hard to look up on the phone
Good flow in the tank from powerheads is VERY important!
Keep in mind that I'm referring to real turnover after losses from plumbing.
I don't remember skimmer efficiency off the top of my head, from memory 5x to 10x made no difference due to the lack of skimmer efficiency. There's an article on advanced aquarist about this. Too hard to look up on the phone
Good flow in the tank from powerheads is VERY important!
I know of no golden rule,but the take home opinion as I understand it is something like this.
Skimmer should process display tank atleast 5 times per hr.(I shoot for 10 mostly because my skimmer isn't the most efficient.
So going off of that,an insump skimmer would or should have to have a return pump capable of turning over that volume of water per/hr through the sump.I use a mag 9.5 -72gal dt & 20gal sump.Quick math says close enough to 10X tank volume.
I maybe entirely wrong but its a general guideline Ive always followed.
I do believe sump turnover should be somewhat matched with skimmer turnover.It would make sense to have a skimmer thats capable of processing 20x tank volume when the return pump can only bring it 4-5 times tank volume but thats just me and how I think I understand it.
5-10 times turnover is what Ive seen as a somewhat standard guideline.
HTH -Steve
Skimmer should process display tank atleast 5 times per hr.(I shoot for 10 mostly because my skimmer isn't the most efficient.
So going off of that,an insump skimmer would or should have to have a return pump capable of turning over that volume of water per/hr through the sump.I use a mag 9.5 -72gal dt & 20gal sump.Quick math says close enough to 10X tank volume.
I maybe entirely wrong but its a general guideline Ive always followed.
I do believe sump turnover should be somewhat matched with skimmer turnover.It would make sense to have a skimmer thats capable of processing 20x tank volume when the return pump can only bring it 4-5 times tank volume but thats just me and how I think I understand it.
5-10 times turnover is what Ive seen as a somewhat standard guideline.
HTH -Steve
cardiffgiant
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IME, you can get pretty good flow through a sump without microbubbles. What I found with my previous sump is that the number of baffles is less important than having enough distance in between them for the bubbles to pop. I'd suggest:
-Going with more than an inch between the 2nd and 3rd baffle (going from right to left, skimmer to return).
-Making sure that you can accommodate the ideal water level of your skimmer (10" for my octopus) by either reducing the depth of the skimmer section or by having enough room in the to put it on a small platform
-Skipping the first baffle (from left to right, fuge to return) in the fuge and just going with the 2nd and 3rd. You won't have a microbubble issue from the fuge, so the baffles will just be to prevent a ton of chaeto from getting into your return chamber
-Going with more than an inch between the 2nd and 3rd baffle (going from right to left, skimmer to return).
-Making sure that you can accommodate the ideal water level of your skimmer (10" for my octopus) by either reducing the depth of the skimmer section or by having enough room in the to put it on a small platform
-Skipping the first baffle (from left to right, fuge to return) in the fuge and just going with the 2nd and 3rd. You won't have a microbubble issue from the fuge, so the baffles will just be to prevent a ton of chaeto from getting into your return chamber
