Hey guys ive got a few q's on a new project of mine and figuring out flow rates, gph etc. A little background info. I am setting up a 60g cube(1in drain 3/4return) and a 55g basement sump. So, i have approximately 11-12ft to push water back up into the main display. Off of the return i want to build a manifold for additional equipment to run off if needed(reactors and such). Ive acquired a magdrive model 24(2400gph). Now, my sump is directly under where my tank sits so its a pretty much straight shot to the top with the exception of a few unions and a gate valve(restrict flow if needed), plus the manifold that i want to feed. Ive used the headloss calculator and its saying i will be running about 754gph(which its not accounting my gph to run my manifold). Im thinking this is to much flow? Also, the mag 24 outlet is 1in in diameter that i will reduce to 3/4 for my return line, will that make a difference? Im debating on just running a different pump with a 3/4in outlet so no reducing needed and less flow. Im bascially confused and need help lol!
Sump/Return pump questions
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Vinny Kreyling
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To get the flow rate on the chart you need to run @ least the pipe size of the outlet.
Bigger is even better, smaller is not the way to go.
Bigger is even better, smaller is not the way to go.
Vinny Kreyling
Premium Member
Leave the manifold 1" & reduce with a valve for each one.
IMO if you have the ability as soon as it comes out of the pump up it to 1 1/2 all the way to the bottom of the tank then drop it back down to the 3/4 needed to get into the tank. If you have a manifold take that off the 1 1/2 and then drop it down to whatever you need. By upping the diameter like that you'll see a huge improvement in efficiency. You can always restrict it if needed but put that restriction as close to the output your trying to throttle as possible. The mag 24 should absolutely do the trick but if you're looking at other options I'd consider something that's designed for high head pressure not something that will just overcome it with enough power.
Vinny Kreyling
Premium Member
Tee with a valve & hose barb for desired hose, 3/4"?
Support the pipe by the tee because unless you leave the hose attached there will be stress on that section.
Clic Clamps are great for support & if necessary can have a threaded rod to extend from a wall.
Manifolds use Tee's with valves & barbs for vinyl hose.
Support the pipe by the tee because unless you leave the hose attached there will be stress on that section.
Clic Clamps are great for support & if necessary can have a threaded rod to extend from a wall.
Manifolds use Tee's with valves & barbs for vinyl hose.
steamman
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Lots of advice have been given here. I think it is a bad idea to restrict the flow on any return pump. Better you tee off the return line off the pump discharge ( 1" x 3/4" tee) and send it either back into the sump and or use it to feed another piece of equipment thus saving you the expense of another pump to run something else that may require one. Put a valve only on the bypass of the tee. No reason to put a valve on the return to the tank. This way you can run one inch to the first tee only. You can continue the 1" up to your display if you want but once you restrict the flow down to 3/4" you would not be reducing the restriction by any real measurable amount once you reduce down to the 3/4" fitting.
On another note using your sump overflow to run a filter or reactor could be a bad idea if it clogs. This could lead to an overflow disaster. If you were going to use it to run through say a protein skimmer that has no chance of backing up that would not be a problem. I actually use one of my two overflows to feed my skimmer and have been doing so for many many years without a problem. This way you also save money on pumps and you do not add any extra heat into your tank.
Good luck
On another note using your sump overflow to run a filter or reactor could be a bad idea if it clogs. This could lead to an overflow disaster. If you were going to use it to run through say a protein skimmer that has no chance of backing up that would not be a problem. I actually use one of my two overflows to feed my skimmer and have been doing so for many many years without a problem. This way you also save money on pumps and you do not add any extra heat into your tank.
Good luck
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Vinny Kreyling
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I would.
Make sure adjacent handles can be turned off without interference.
Make sure adjacent handles can be turned off without interference.
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