Tang in a Nano? Tank pic included

I had a 2" Yellow tang and a 2" Blue tang in my 29G for about a year before I "upgraded" to a 120G.

Everybody got along in the 29G. :)

Now I am looking to upgrade again.
 
Tang

Tang

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7997863#post7997863 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nano10
The amount of money I've put into my tank is worth a lot more then a tang being uncomfortable for a few months.

You have a 10 gallon set up. How much money could you have possibly spent that it would be worth a tang being misserable, and mostly likely being killed in the 4 - 6 months you plan to keep it in there.

Your only thinking of yourself here. A tang in a 10 gallon is cruel. If you can't afford to maintain a 10 gallon nano properly, what makes you think you can afford a 55 (which is too small for a tang, IMO) when you move? Moving is not cheap. There are other solutions to your problem. I feel sorry for the tang.
 
Nano10,

I suggest you take the rock out and clean it. If you are careful, you can take some of the zoos off and start new frags. Everything else (coral) seems to be loose.

I would then cook the rock. If you don't have several months to wait, you can actually boil it or leave it outside to dryout. Once cooked, I would put the rock in a skimmered tank/tub for 3-4 days then place back in tank. The bonus is that this method will rid the aiptasia as well. You have enough sand in the tank to maintain it and the corals. Adding a tang in there is not only cruel and silly but will actually give you other headaches like cyano and possibly hair algae. Even if you find one that eats Valonia, there is also a great chance that the YT will feel crowded and kill your clown.

Kenny,
Not only are you recommending one of the larger tangs that thrives on flow but one that picks on LR the least amount of all tangs.
 
Re: Tang

Re: Tang

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8008595#post8008595 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by redvipe2010
You have a 10 gallon set up. How much money could you have possibly spent that it would be worth a tang being misserable, and mostly likely being killed in the 4 - 6 months you plan to keep it in there.

Your only thinking of yourself here. A tang in a 10 gallon is cruel. If you can't afford to maintain a 10 gallon nano properly, what makes you think you can afford a 55 (which is too small for a tang, IMO) when you move? Moving is not cheap. There are other solutions to your problem. I feel sorry for the tang.
Dude, just because he has a 10g setup doesn't mean that he couldn't have put a lot of money into it. Over the course of the 2 years that I had my 10g running I spent at least $1000 on livestock. As it is, I had a problem with a different macro, and I WISH a tang would have solved that. Unfortunately,nothing seems to eat Halymenia algae. So, if I had an algae that tangs would have actually eaten, there would have been a tang in my tank, if only for a short amount of time. As it is, I lost well over half of my corals to the menacing red weed, despite my best efforts to get rid of it myself. So, I would rather have the tang suffer for a while than lose everything. Is it cruel? Yep, but I would much rather have lost a tang than all of those corals. How cruel is it to let all those corals get overgrown and die? They're animals, too y'know. Maybe look at all aspects of this problem before trying to rip the poor guy a new one, huh?

As to what tang to get...definitely a tiny one. If you could find a small Tomini that would probably work out the best, since they max out around 5 or 6 inches. Perfect for a 55.
 
If your gonna do it anyway. I would'nt suggest a kole as every one Ive ever had did'nt eat caulerpa but liked the more brown algae that grows on the glass.
My hippos and yellows always liked caulerpa but it does depend on the tang sometimes some like hair algae better.

kass
 
Re: Tang

Re: Tang

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8008595#post8008595 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by redvipe2010
You have a 10 gallon set up. How much money could you have possibly spent that it would be worth a tang being misserable, and mostly likely being killed in the 4 - 6 months you plan to keep it in there.

Your only thinking of yourself here. A tang in a 10 gallon is cruel. If you can't afford to maintain a 10 gallon nano properly, what makes you think you can afford a 55 (which is too small for a tang, IMO) when you move? Moving is not cheap. There are other solutions to your problem. I feel sorry for the tang.

A grand i have a nano tank that i've spent a thousand dollars on bubby. And where the hell did i say i couldn't afford to mantian my tank?
 
Re: Re: Tang

Re: Re: Tang

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8009070#post8009070 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by StrongHandsMcGee
Dude, just because he has a 10g setup doesn't mean that he couldn't have put a lot of money into it. Over the course of the 2 years that I had my 10g running I spent at least $1000 on livestock. As it is, I had a problem with a different macro, and I WISH a tang would have solved that. Unfortunately,nothing seems to eat Halymenia algae. So, if I had an algae that tangs would have actually eaten, there would have been a tang in my tank, if only for a short amount of time. As it is, I lost well over half of my corals to the menacing red weed, despite my best efforts to get rid of it myself. So, I would rather have the tang suffer for a while than lose everything. Is it cruel? Yep, but I would much rather have lost a tang than all of those corals. How cruel is it to let all those corals get overgrown and die? They're animals, too y'know. Maybe look at all aspects of this problem before trying to rip the poor guy a new one, huh?

As to what tang to get...definitely a tiny one. If you could find a small Tomini that would probably work out the best, since they max out around 5 or 6 inches. Perfect for a 55.



Thank you my point exactly
 
It seems to me that the Tang police are really PETA in disguise. When ever i have seen the tiny hippo tangs in a pet store they have been in a tank no larger than 20 gallons. and there are usually 7-8 of them in there. I think your fine. just use common sense. besides i still think it's more of a ratio of fish volume to volume of water anyways meaning 1-2" Tang equals okay. To say you need at least a 75 for a 1-2" tang is just stupid.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8011041#post8011041 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by localdeltarider
besides i still think it's more of a ratio of fish volume to volume of water anyways meaning 1-2" Tang equals okay. To say you need at least a 75 for a 1-2" tang is just stupid.
Hobby Experience: 6 months
:rolleyes:
 
not gonna work

not gonna work

It isnt gonna work. You are trying to correct one mistake with another les labor intensive mistake due to laziness. the sure fire way to get rid of the caluerpa is to do as previously mentioned: remove the rock by hand and manually take it out/nuke the rocks. The tang is a rediculous idea. How much maneuverability you think it will have? Avoid the tang, you will only make your problems worse
 
a small 1 inch tang would have plenty on maneuverability in any tank. I'm not talking about putting a large tang in. And as of right now I'm not having any luck finding one. So hopefully I'll wake up in the morning and feeling like doing a real cleaning on it and pull all of the rock out and get as much as i can off. If it grows back I'm going with a tang even if i have to order on off the net.




Thanks everyone for your advice!!!!
 
my point is that even a one inch wont be able to get in between rocks, etc... My advice is to use tongs/tweezers. you will be able to get a better grip and hopefully easily peel the little buggers off. Its how i got rid of my caluerpa.

good luck
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8014506#post8014506 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DarkXerox
Well might as well get a copperband too to take care of that aiptasia in there (sarcasm).


Nice way to up your post count. Go back and read my first post buddy i didn't ask for your opinion.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7996187#post7996187 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nano10
Not looking to be critized for this only looking for people with success.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8014671#post8014671 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nano10
Nice way to up your post count. Go back and read my first post buddy i didn't ask for your opinion.

Yeah really upping my post count when I average .68 a day over the last 2 years. Honestly there is a reason why you keep getting the same responses--because we all have had experience with your type of situation, have seen what goes wrong, and are trying to give you the BEST help that will best fit you AND your livestock.

If you refuse to agree with the general consensus among the more experienced reefkeepers, then fine, but as it was mentioned before, if you ask for help in a public forum, you should be ready to get criticism. There are a lot of people with many years of experience here and if we didn't share our own positive experiences, the hobby would be run by LFS owners and our tanks would look like they did in the 80's with fish (let alone corals) going in and out like a revolving door.

So go ahead and try the tang in the 10 gallon, but if it does not fare well, be sure to post what happened. After all, this is a forum for sharing experiences right? However, if it lasts for over 6 months (which is still hardly a success considering a fish's lifespan) then more power to you--because you "proved" the experts and scientists wrong, who happen to write all of the literature on reef aquaria out there.

I'm looking forward to see how this progresses.
 
Half the time those tiny hippo tangs don't make it just from all the stress of shipping and such. I think those tiny dime sized ones are too small to sell and they should'nt even be doing it.
I got 3 about 2 yrs ago from the LFS because I felt sorry for them. I put them in my 150 and 1 died within 2 days. Then I had 2 left and they fought so had to remove one and put it in my 55.

If it's healthy I think it would prolly survive for a few months (and you don't really know they all looked healthy when I got them) but when they are that small I doubt it would put much of a dent in the caulerpa anyway for a few months.
Take it from me I wish I wouldnt have ever put that blue one in my 55. I cant catch it believe me Ive tried so I could give to a friend with a big tank.
They really do need more space when they get bigger and then you can't catch them without ripping the whole tank apart.
The one in my 150 is clearly bigger and healthier and the water pars are better in my 55.

If you HAD to get one and are going to do it anyway a small yellow might do better.

kass
 
most urchins will eat grape caleurpa, mine is ravenous for it.

a tuxedo urchin would be a much better idea than a tang, and is likely to have a far greater apetite for macro algae.
 
IMO

i think you will be better off borrowing a foxface for a while

these are fantastic algea eaters and will proberly clear the tank in 3 days then sell it back to your lfs

foxface will do better at clearing the algea than any tang i have seen
 
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