Tank of the Month - November '04

Kevin,

Sweet tank. I'd love to hear more about the anthias and the mandarins spawning. How often do the mandarins spawn? Out of the ten anthias is it one male and 9 females? What's their spawning behavior like? How often? Do they all get involved? or just a pair at a time? Haven't heard of anthias spawning in a tank before and would enjoy hearing the details.

Tom
 
what a tank

what a tank

congrats , amazing. The Blue face Angel is truly wonderful. I have a Majestic Angel largely inspired by the last two Tanks of the month and now yours as well. My yellow tang picked it on it and after nine days of not eating while I was watching , I have moved it to a 20 gallon tank to hopefully fatten it up again. Any suggestions? My LS store had it 3 weeks and it came from Bali. They recommended turn up the heat to 86 degrees to get it to eat and feed lettuce and mysis. http://piscies75.smugmug.com/gallery/184137/2/10525123/Large


It appears you also have a Emporer or Korean Angel in the picture of your tank? Is that xenia growing on your centre column? You have so many corals it is difficult to see your LR , you say you have 850 lbs, what kind is it please?
 
I'd love to hear more about the anthias and the mandarins spawning.
The Mandarins spawn in the evening when just the actinic lights are on. They touch their bodies together and spiral to the surface sometimes breaking the surface. They do this many times then I see a milky cloud.

Regarding the Anthias,
I have 2 super males and one sub male. The rest are females. They also spawn in the evening. The super male male starts diving under the females which pack into a tight group. The females will go into the corals in a tightly packed group then suddenly switch to another coral. The lighting is dim so I never saw any eggs I would just see their mouths (and the Chromis) going up and down like they were talking. Then one evening I was working under the tank and happened to look up. At that angle I could see the eggs. They are very tiny, like grains of salt.

I don't often get home before the lights go off so I don't really know the frequency.

Regards,
Kevin
 
I just have the Blue Face angel but I am quite familiar with the acclimation of P. navarchus (Majestic angel). I bought it as a small 2.5" juvenile so the picture you saw might have been when it was still in its juvenile coloration.

I would recommend Freeze-dried plankton and Nori rather than mysis and lettuce. Lettuce has very little nutritional value and mysis can quickly pollute a small tank. Freeze-dried plankton has about 64% protein and will quickly fatten up fish even if they only eat a small amount. I prefer the Majestic to the Blue Face. They stay smaller and I like the colors better too. My LFS sold me my Blue Face and told me it was a Majestic. When they are juveniles they look very similar.

I kept mine in my sump for a few months before I put him in the main tank. He did not come out to eat for about a month after placing him in the main tank. I could see him in the rock work grazing on algae.

HTH,
Kevin
 
Wow, Kevin! That's an awesome tank! Hopefully, one day I can "upgrade" to something like yours.

BTW, I was wondering, what are your electric bills like with all that lighting?
 
Hi,

I saw the whole tank on the other board and pffffffffffffft, this is a real awesome tank.
we, Dutch people, can learn a lot of this.
I don't know what they are doing wrong, but I've never seen such big acropora's in a Dutch tank.

greetings
Maya
 
Beautiful tank Kevin. I have some questions about the clownfish picture you posted.

Are they spawning in a flower pot? If that's the case, did you put the pot in the tank for spawing purposes only or is really part of the aquascape?

Thank you for sharing. It's a real inspiration.
 
I have some questions about the clownfish picture you posted.
I had the clowns in a 80 gal tank for a few years before I put them in the big tank. They spawned all the time but when I moved them they quit. I think the big fish really made them nervous. So I added that flowerpot hoping it would give them a place to hide and feel comfortable. I placed it right next to their anemone (H. crispa) but they gave it a wide berth for 3 or 4 days. Luckily they soon figured it out. It is overgrown with coral (Porites and Xenia) today and is no longer seen.

Regards,
Kevin
 
Kevin: Beautiful tank! I am in the process of setting up a 200+ and yours is truly something to aspire too. Great work.

How large is your sailfin tang and how big was it when you first added it? I am considering putting one in mine but I'm concerned it will get too big too fast and I have no more room to upgrade (unless I get a new house and probably a new husband ;) ).

Thanks.
Mickey
 
how often do you feed your athias? and do they pick through the food concoction you have? or do they just eat every bit of food that enters the tank?

i too have lyretail anthias, and want them to be fat and long lived. and as of now they only eat frozen brine or mysis or this zooplankton stuff. id like to try out some other foods they will engourge on.
 
How large is your sailfin tang and how big was it when you first added it?

It is about frying pan sized. It was about the size of a saucer when I got it. They grow rather fast. I think that was over a couple of years. The purchse date is listed with the fish list.

Regards,
Kevin
 
how often do you feed your athias? and do they pick through the food concoction you have?
I feed mine once a day (sometimes twice) but for the first 6 months or so they need to be fed 2 or 3 times a day until they fatten up. Mine now eat anything except large pellets. They are not too fond of the small ones either but I do see them eat some.
When I started them I fed them raw shrimp from the store and that is all they would eat. The next thing they started eating was freeze dried plankton.
One of the reasons they do better in a school is that if just one of the fish starts to eat the others soon follow by watching. If you find one Anthias that is eating then add more you will have them all eating within 3-4 days VS if you add a bunch that aren't eating it can take 10 days or so and they get rather skinny. They can go 14-21 days with no food before starving but they are in serious trouble after 14 days IME.

Regards,
Kevin
 
One word..


SPECTACULAR!!

One of the best looking tanks I have seen. Its people like you that get others Hooked!!!


Congrats Kev!

Jim
 
Frying Pan size, hmmm. That sounds like it would be too big for my 6 ft tank in just a few years. Too bad because I really love that fish. Maybe I'll go with a couple of hippo tangs instead of a sailfin.

Thanks Kevin, and again, your tank is gorgeous. Hope mine looks as nice as that in a few years.

Mickey
 
Kevin

Great job on the tank and thanks for taking the time to share all of the info with us - quick question regarding the angels - in your experience, what should be avoided with the angels - i.e. what corals (softies, sps, lps ??) and any fish they could have issues with?? I love their beauty, but I have always been told that they are a no go - thanks.
gerard
 
Mickey- regal tangs or hippo tnags get as big as the salfin the salfin gets to be 15 and the regal or hippo gets to be 12 inches

so thats not a really difference actually the one salfin woudl be better than the couple of regal or hippos just a thought for you to consider!

Nick
 
in your experience, what should be avoided with the angels - i.e. what corals (softies, sps, lps ??)
Different families of angels have different tastes but for the members of the Pomacanthus family that are considered most reef safe the hardest for them to resist or should I say the ones they find the most tasty :) are: Favia, Favites, Trachphyllia, and other corals that have large fleshy polyps. Most of them will avoid ones that pack a strong sting like some of the Euphyllia family (Torch, Hammer, and Frogspawn). Of course fish are individuals too and they do not all behave the same. The best Angels to try is you really want one are:
Majestic (P. navarchus)
Emperor (P. imperator)
Blueface (P. xanthometopon)
Sixbar (P. sexstriatus)
Regal (P. diacanthus)


What I did and recommend is to buy a juvenile and place it in a separate location (sump, quarantine tank etc.) by itself and get it eating prepared foods aggressively. Then move it to the main tank. IME as they age they go through periods of experimentation where they try soft corals for awhile then certain SPS etc. I can remember getting pretty freaked when mine started eating my orange M capricornis like a Ritz cracker :eek1: . Lucky for me it was very large and grew fast. After a few months it stopped and has never touched it again. It never did bother the green with purple rim cap or the lavender cap. It did take a liking to a few things I wanted to eradicate though. Like a patch of Majono anemones and a patch of hydroids both were eaten in one day. So there are risks it just depends what each individuals threshold for damage is. Mine has been very well behaved for about 6 months now eating a little algae but mostly just prepared foods.

Regards,
Kevin
 
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