Tanked....

[tcoral]

But how edited it is?
Surely there was no significant time between the hot water and the fish addition - if there was, they could have skipped the ice and let the water cool naturally.

I guess I just don't see goodness coming from putting boxes and boxes of fish into a newly filled tank with newly mixed saltwater. Being generous, perhaps they pre cycle the filtration and plan to do water changes every day.

Regardless, the story they are telling is that you can set up a tank and fully stock it the same day, which is a conception the industry has been fighting forever.

Oh - anyone worried about the squirrel fish and chromis combination in the phone booth tank?

I rewatched the episode, and no the fish were there in the boxes (21 boxes) and they were concerned about the temp of the tank and getting the fish out of the boxes before they died, so no, not that edited.

Also, the choice of fish they used in a totally uncycled tank (an achilles tang, trigger, large angels, etc). They definitely have just the "cool" factor and not the animals best interest in mind.

 

[philosophile]

The fact that we don't see the life support systems is something that we should remember, before we jump down their throats. For all we know, they have 600 lbs of live rock in their sump thats been cycled and ready....

We just don't know what they're doing.... The TV show's directed interest are the people, and the design of the tank, not how the tanks are functional. So the functional part of the show, the one we're all interested in, is cut out in favor of what would bring in the larger audience. I'm sure most people couldn't care less about the skimmer foam that is produced or what kind of pumps they're using. They'd much rather see a redhead in a bikini screaming about sharks.

Assumedly we can go to the mob experience and see the tank for ourselves... Maybe someone could report on the livestock.

 

[mcbaes72]

I found Tanked to be quite entertaining and creative on how they put them together (better than many reality shows out there). At least this shows people the hobby we all love even if we question their methods in putting it together and maintaining. In fact, I do question at least one of their creations. I'm not sure how the couple that work out of their home are gonna feed and maintain the phone booth aquarium, looks extremely difficult if they have to reach the bottom of a 6 ft tall narrow tank.

In any case, I don't think it'll last long on the air, but I feel that it's worth watching.

 

[Bamm Bamm]

I dont agree with any of their stocking of the tanks by any means but I do like the show so far they do some pretty nice work..

 

[colotl]

Good show so far. Would be nice if they got into what equipment they are using. Ideas are iffy but turn out nice at the end.

 

[Jacwil]

the fact that we don't see the life support systems is something that we should remember, before we jump down their throats. For all we know, they have 600 lbs of live rock in their sump thats been cycled and ready....

We just don't know what they're doing.... The tv show's directed interest are the people, and the design of the tank, not how the tanks are functional. So the functional part of the show, the one we're all interested in, is cut out in favor of what would bring in the larger audience. I'm sure most people couldn't care less about the skimmer foam that is produced or what kind of pumps they're using. They'd much rather see a redhead in a bikini screaming about sharks.

Assumedly we can go to the mob experience and see the tank for ourselves... Maybe someone could report on the livestock.

+1!!!!!!!

 

[Thales]

We did see the LSS for their version of a phone booth tank. I think we saw the Mafia tank LSS too, but not sure.

I don't really care about the functional part of the show that we don't see. I care about how the 'you can set up a tank in a day - fully stocked' impression that the show is leaving people with.

 

[Jacwil]

Would a new motorcycle enthusiast think they could build a motorcycle in a week, would a couple looking to build their house think they could do it in 3 days?

There are lots of idiots in the world but I doubt this show will send the hordes to Petco to start a tank overnight...actually there are probably folks that have tried/done this without the inspiration of this program.

It's just entertainment folks.

 

[djk83]

The fact that we don't see the life support systems is something that we should remember, before we jump down their throats. For all we know, they have 600 lbs of live rock in their sump thats been cycled and ready....

We just don't know what they're doing.... The TV show's directed interest are the people, and the design of the tank, not how the tanks are functional. So the functional part of the show, the one we're all interested in, is cut out in favor of what would bring in the larger audience. I'm sure most people couldn't care less about the skimmer foam that is produced or what kind of pumps they're using. They'd much rather see a redhead in a bikini screaming about sharks.

Assumedly we can go to the mob experience and see the tank for ourselves... Maybe someone could report on the livestock.

I dont care how many Lbs of LR they have that may have been cycled. They are wrong in their procedures. Putting all the fish including tangs in a phone booth. I guess all fish just swim vertical now? What would be good is a show that educated people about marine tanks and proper care.

 

[Jacwil]

What would be good is a show that educated people about marine tanks and proper care.

Yea I don't really think that would get the ratings needed to keep a show running unfortunately. Remember we are a pretty small niche.

Someone else mentioned that if they were slouches with no morals or ethics, they wouldn't be around for too long.

 

[tcoral]

too bad they don't have an episode on that church aquarium they show in the beginning, that's an episode I'd like to see!

Still, on the website they could go into more depth on the stocking list, maintenance, and mechanics of each tank for those thinking of making the plunge!

 

[Backinthegame]

My main concern is that they show brand spanking new tanks getting filled with tap water and salt mix getting immediately fully stocked.

+1 Very misleading to any newbie who maybe considering setting up a tank. My wife hates it when I watch the show because I'm too critical of this. But let's be honest. Theres no way in hell that you can setup and fully stock (with show size, high priced fish) in one day without concern for the nitrogenous cycle.

Excellent concept tanks, but needs to be more realistic.

 

[Jacwil]

So what do you think happens, all the livestock dies, it's an epic failure, and they just do it again on the next install? Their business would never last if that was the case.

Let's not forget the editing process that we DON'T see.

 

[GreshamH]

So what do you think happens, all the livestock dies, it's an epic failure, and they just do it again on the next install? Their business would never last if that was the case.

Let's not forget the editing process that we DON'T see.

How much do you think they rely on service for their income? Every single customer I know that has used them has only used them for the tank build

 

[Jacwil]

How much do you think they rely on service for their income? Every single customer I know that has used them has only used them for the tank build

Fair enough! Have all of their customers that you know that used them suffered catastrophic losses?

 

[Thales]

Would a new motorcycle enthusiast think they could build a motorcycle in a week, would a couple looking to build their house think they could do it in 3 days?

Yes and yes. Its one of the criticism of those shows. However, I think the comparison is inaccurate. I don't care about how long it takes them to build the tank, the impression they leave the public with is 'you can set up a tank in a day - fully stocked' .

There are lots of idiots in the world but I doubt this show will send the hordes to Petco to start a tank overnight...actually there are probably folks that have tried/done this without the inspiration of this program.

Of course - that has little if anything to do with my concern.

It's just entertainment folks.

So is ghost hunters and that Sasquatch show, doesn't mean they are real or helpful to the world at large and it doesn't mean that people, too many people, don't think they are indeed real.

 

[Thales]

So what do you think happens, all the livestock dies, it's an epic failure, and they just do it again on the next install? Their business would never last if that was the case.

Not true at all. There are tons of business that use the 'burn and turn' model.

 

[Jacwil]

I understand your points for sure.

What is your biggest worry though? That someone watches the show and decides they want to set up a fully-stocked system in a day?

So a person walks into an LFS and states they want to start up a sw system...the employee will most likely ask some questions regarding said person's experience. The person realizes they can't have a stocked system by the time they go to bed and either walks out empty-handed or decides to do it the "proper" way.

I know there are all types of people in the world and people make bad choices all the time but I think you might be misjudging the population as a whole. I don't think the number of people rushing out to begin this hobby by purchasing a tank and a ton of fish at once, will increase b/c of this program..IMO.

 

[Jacwil]

Not true at all. There are tons of business that use the 'burn and turn' model.

That are on television????


*I just wanted to add that I'm enjoying this discussion, and I'm happy that it's staying upbeat.

:beer:

 

[Thales]

I understand your points for sure.

What is your biggest worry though? That someone watches the show and decides they want to set up a fully-stocked system in a day?

Nope! Its way hipper to ask a question and wait for an answer than making up an answer and arguing against it!

My concerns are that the show will reenforce the cut flower mentality that is already way to prevalent in the industry and that that reenforcement can be used to support people who are against the industry.