Tanked?

What are you trying to accomplish with this product man? Why not just use biopellets in fluidized reactor?

LOL, not trying to do anything with it. Just ran across it and had never seen it before.

Chris, what pump and reactor are u using for the bio-pellets? Also, how much bio-pellets are you using?
 
Well, that's common knowledge and can be done easily by a "newbie". You claimed to have a method that was so advanced that you would not recommend it to a novice. I wasn't trying to argue with you. I just wanted to know what your method for controlling ammonia during the cycle. Using an already established filter, assuming it is large enough, pretty much negates the need to even worry about ammonia.

Again, all I was asking you is...

How you control ammonia in a cycling tank?


Now your making up sentences. "I never claimed to have a method that was so advanced that I would not recommend it to a novice."
This is what I said since you seem to have a short memory. "Probably "MOST" newbies to the hobby should wait out the cycling time."
I said most newbies should go through the cycle period because even though you start a new tank with a jump started filtration, you still need to adjust and keep track of the water quality. While there are plenty of newbies that can handle this, there are plenty of newbies that might have better results if they just cycle the tank. Some people take time to learn how the chemistry of an aquarium works. A new tank loaded with fish is not the time to be learning.

Its not rocket science. No high tech advanced method. I said it could be done, you said "it wasn't a good idea." Now you know it can be done safely.

And as far as the show is concerned, since they don't show any of the filtration being added to the aquariums you don't know what they did. So everything you said about the show is speculation? Maybe you should call the company and ask them what they do for filtration on the new tanks and post the answers?
 
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What you said was...

Probably most newbys to the hobby should wait out the cycling time. But those people that know how to control the ammonia and nitrites during the process shouldn't have any trouble adding the fish right away.

Besides massive water changes as Chris already indicated, I was asking you what your method of ammonia control you used. I can't seem to get an answer so I will assume you have none. If doing a water change and testing is too much for a novice, they should not even attempt the hobby.
 
Now your making up sentences. "I never claimed to have a method that was so advanced that I would not recommend it to a novice."
This is what I said sense you seem to have a short memory. "Probably "MOST" newbies to the hobby should wait out the cycling time."
I said most newbies should go through the cycle period because even though you start a new tank with a jump started filtration, you still need to adjust and keep track of the water quality. While there are plenty of newbies that can handle this, there are plenty of newbies that might have better results if they just cycle the tank. Some people take time to learn how the chemistry of an aquarium works. A new tank loaded with fish is not the time to be learning.

Its not rocket science. No high tech advanced method. I said it could be done, you said "it wasn't a good idea." Now you know it can be done safely.

And as far as the show is concerned, sense they don't show any of the filtration being added to the aquariums you don't know what they did. So everything you said about the show is speculation? Maybe you should call the company and ask them what they do for filtration on the new tanks and post the answers?

I'm getting the "sense" that you should be using the word "since"
 
And I was really not trying to argue with you. I thought you knew of some new and advanced method of controlling ammonia and I was curious to what it was. Starting a tank with an established bio filter is one of the easiest ways to set up a tank for a novice.
 
Wow thats what your lowing yourself too nit picking my spelling of a word? HaHa!

Your question was answered several times in this thread. (If you have a jump started filtration system you won't have a large amount of ammonia to get rid of.)

I agree its very easy for a novice to set up a tank with an established bio filter. If they understand what their doing. Cycling is most recommended for novice because most don't know what their doing.

Did I misspell anything in this post? :)
 
Lighten up Francis.

Just in case you missed it, that's another one of my attempts at humor.

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Francis? Who's that? Sorry I should have put my name on the posts, its "Jason". LOL!! :)

Just in case you missed it, that's another one of my attempts at humor.
No hard feelings!
 
Chris, what pump and reactor are u using for the bio-pellets? Also, how much bio-pellets are you using?

I have about 80-100 mL of N/P Biopellets in a TLF150 reactor that is T-ed off of my return pump and controlled with ball valve.

I agree its very easy for a novice to set up a tank with an established bio filter. If they understand what their doing. Cycling is most recommended for novice because most don't know what their doing.

Did I misspell anything in this post? :)

Yep :) I think you mean they're
 
I emailed the company and asked them how they can put in so many fish without a bio filter and they responded that they use a concentrated solution of bacteria to keep the water stable. Apparently, public aquariums use the same thing.
 
The Tanks are cool but that seemed like way too many fish in the jukebox tank. That tank would be a challenge to keep clean also.
 
I find it hard to watch this show, the fat guy reminds me of Kevin James and the bald guy a donkey. It would be a last resort to watch this, when every other on-demand show is watched.
 
I find it hard to watch this show, the fat guy reminds me of Kevin James and the bald guy a donkey.

my wife said the same exact thing about the fat guy and kevin james the first time she saw the show.

im new to the hobby and i know not to do everything they did on the show. tapwater? 40 fish in 50-60g tank with no live rock or sand? provoking a puffer and then bringing it out of the water? yeah the tanks themselves look good but everything else just ticks me off. my wife had to turn up the tv because i was yelling at the idiots on screen the whole time
 
Wow, never received notifications of replies to this thread. I missed out on three pages worth :(

Regardless, I like the show for the comedic factor, being in a family from New York'ers, i appreciate some of the banter. I also like watching the tanks being built and the ideas.

i try to watch with an open mind, ignoring all the setup drama, and the fact that they are using tap water to set these tanks up, their acclimation procedures, etc. A lot of this really worries me, but I try to watch for the other things and not the science of it.
 
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