Tds readings

Darth Wader

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Ok, so I have an RO/DI unit and I just recently replace all 3 filters. I let them run for about and hour to get the new filters (broken in) so to say, and my tds meter was reading 4-6 ppm. I was just wondering what everybody thinks about this. Is my tds meter not calibrated? I've had it for about 6 months and it always seemed to work fine. I cant figure out why it would give me a reading of 6ppm with brand new filters. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Darth.
 
What brand of RO/DI are you using? Has it ever given you a reading below 4?

It may need to run for longer than an hour. I know when I added on my DI I let it run for 12hours to "break it in." Just an idea?
 
How old is the tfc membrane on the ro/di? It is recommeded to replace it every 4-5 yrs. If the membrane is fairly new also then it has to be the tds meter needing calibration.
 
Did you replace the di cartridge as well? I notce you state you only replaced 3 filters. I am assuming that would mean at least 2 prefilters (sediment and carbon) and the ro filter. usually, the di filter is the last. It is not unheard of for a ro filter to read 4-6ppm. The addition of my DI filter on my unit keeps my tds reading in the 0-1ppm range. Without it my readings would be higher. You should test your tapwater then, test water coming from ro unit only (un hook di), then test ro/di. that should give you an idea what each unit is doing.

All in all 4-6ppm isn't all that bed depending on how bad your tapwater is to begin with. Just to give you an idea my tapwater reads 186ppm.
 
My tap water reads 246ppm, You can also use a duel in line TDS meter to give you the reading before your unit (your tap water) and after your unit (RO/DI water).
 
Wow! 246. I thought i had it bad.

ChrisKirkland, interesting to know what your tds reading is after your ro/di unit?

thanks
 
To determine the efficiency of your system you need 3 numbers. Tap water TDS, RO only TDS before DI and finally RO/DI TDS. Without those 3 its impossible to tell.
Remember, prefilters and carbons have very little to absolutely no effect on TDS, they are there to protect the more expensive membrane which is the workhorse of the system. The efficiency of the membrane is what determines how long the DI lasts and how well it works.
Post your three TDS reardings here along with what membrane you have and we can help you out.

Also make sure you are getting accurate test results. Always draw your sample directly from the filter not from a storage tank or bucket. Use a squeaky clean clear glass drinking water glass with no soap residue or water spots to capture the sample and always triple rinse both the glass and the TDS meter in DI water after each sample to make sure they are clean.

To give you an example, I test my tap water first, let the TDS meter stabilize and get a reading of 835. Next I triple rinse the glass and meter probe in DI then sample the RO only, again letting the meter stabilize and get a RO TDS of 6. I do another triple rinse using DI then take a RO/DI sample, let it stabilize and get a readin gof 0.0 . I do a final rinse of the glass and meter, turn the glass upside down so it stays clean and cap the meter so the probe stays clean.

My Tap Water TDS is 835 and RO only is 6 so that means I am at 99.28% rejection or membrane removal efficiency. My RO/DI is at 0 so that means the DI is doing its job too. When I start to first see a reading of anything other than 0 on a consistent basis I change my DI cartridge since DI begins to release weakly ionized substances even before it is exhausted. I don't give it that chance.
 
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Ok, I have a 4 stage ro/di unit http://www.spectrapure.com/St_osmo_p2.htm
Does the (RO membrane) one on the top have to be replaced? I have been just replacing the 3 filters (sediment, carbon and DI).
The unit is about 2 years old at the most.
I have the tds meter that you tie into the line before it goes to the first filter (usually reads about 160) and then you tee in after the filters. I never make large amounts of water so my tds readings are always right as I make up the new water.
When I put on new filters last time my tds did read 0 after running it for about an hour or so, thats why I was concerned when I saw it reading 6.
Maybe I will try running it a bit longer and see if it goes down.
 
If you are using Spectrapures replacement filters or at least the same quality of filter and you are keeping up with the recommended filter replacements the membrane should last 5+ years easily. Some people such as Randy Holmes Farley report 10 years on a membrane if you keep up with the small amount of maintenance and replacements.
Can you borrow or otherwise get your hand on a handheld TDS meter? You really need to get an RO only TDS reading to determine the condition of the membrane. If you can't get a handheld, unscrew the DI filter housing, remove the DI cartridge, dump the water out, reinstall the empty sump (canister housing), and let it refill before taking a reading. This should be RO only water and will provide that important third number you need to calculate efficiency. You could do this every 3 months or so to keep track of how it is doing. I find having the handheld and a RO bypass valve is easier as I can just draw a glass of RO water and test it any time.
If your tap water is around 160 you should be seeing an RO only TDS of 3 to 7 or so. It sounds like your DI was shot and you were passing RO TDS through.
 
And, filters are not created equally.

Brand new sediment filter, charcoal filter, membrane, and DI from LFS = 4 tds. final output reading.

Brand new filters, expensive, from LFS for aquarium use, etc.
Hmmm. my tds meter must need re-calibrating....?

Nope.
Replaced the just bought filters with Spectra-Pure brand and tds = 0.
 
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