The - Best - Is - Yet - To - Come !!!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12340182#post12340182 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MUCHO REEF
Lets turn this into a discussion without pictures.



1. What percentage of the earth consist of water?

A whole lot... at least 2/3

2. What percentage is saltwater, at or above 35,000 ppm salt content I'm guessing?
A whole lot... at least 90% i'm guessing without going to wikipedia or something

3. How many regional collection sights are there?
Not many

4. What percentage of the oceans have been explored?
Very little is my guess... less than 3%?

5. Did anyone hear or see the infusion of Aussie polyps 3 years ago as we see them today? Aussies starting becoming a big thing with how they were marketed, IMO

6. Do you feel there is a limited number of variation that we will see being harvested from the ocean?Uhh.. no! Evolution my firend - constantly happening. It's not only a function of cross breeding, but habitat, predation, and other environmental factors.

7. Do you believe we have seen all that we are going to see and there isn't anything to wow us tomorrow and next week?see number 6

8. Does anyone feel that there isn't a crazy palys that's one solid color through and through, or one that is simply incredible to look at because we never even imagine we'd see this in a reef tank?I think you made your point, LOL

9. What about a yellow zoanthid with an oral disc that's half black and half banana yellow, can you imagine seeing it in your tank someday? Or do you believe something like this simply doesn't exist and never will? that would be cool! is it in your tank by chance?

10. How many harvest/collection sights are there, 8, 9, 10, 12? is the answer one of the above? or is the answer none of the above?

11. Do you think there are even more?

12. What's a CITES PERMIT?
regulated collection in a protected area or pretected species - plants and animals - if I'm not mistaken. I think there are two or three levels of regulation based on if a species is endagered at at risk of becoming endagered.


Lets talk about it, try not to leave yes or no answers though and lets try to leave pictures out of this so it remains a discussion. I'm only asking and would love to hear everyone's opinion. It doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree, share your opinions on how YOU feel.

Thanks

I hope that whatever you're 'hearing' that will be coming into the hobby trade has been propogated in captivity and not harvested directly from the reef - especially if they're rare species...


oh and let's respect MUCHO's request - NO PHOTOS in this thread! Is that so hard?
 
I do like zoanthids, although I have to say, sometimes their habits can be annoying (receding, not opening up, fading, etc.). It's just an observation.

I have a theoretical question, though. Concerning color morphs, I'm assuming that any combination of the colors we see could come on the skirt/center/mouth on a polyp. Is that right? For example, in theory, could there be a polyp that has the skirt that's bright yellow with the center the color of tubs blue and a mouth that's red? I'm just curious about what causes the various morphs to occur. Obviously, it's genetic, but theoretically, could any combo exist?
 
yeah yeah, no pcitures, and I didnt see that, I was replying to his first post where he said

"to challenge me as a reefer to grow them to full maturity and cover a 4 to 6 inch rock"

relax thread nazi
 
I might do the same thing as mucho goal. Start growing all my really nice zoa's and palys into large rock colonies. Over the past 6-8 months I have collected an array of different zoas/palys in the goal to grow them in to a massive garden in my 20gallon tall. that is currently a frag/QT.
 
Re: The - Best - Is - Yet - To - Come !!!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12339240#post12339240 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MUCHO REEF
I've been reading of late in a few places, including RC, that the love, excitement, craze of/for zoanthids and palythoas, whatever you want to call it, is dying down or might slack off soon. I've heard locally that this was all just a fad, meaning the rush by many to purchase zoanthids and playthoas is going to drop like a rock soon. I say just enjoy the hobby, keep it a hobby, share, get involved and have fun. But the above had me thinking today, so I thought I'd share this. It's never really been a fad or phase to me personally and I'm sure many of you feel the same. I just like to hunt for interesting things that peak my interest, to challenge me as a reefer to grow them to full maturity and cover a 4 to 6 inch rock. I just hope everyone continues to practice safe reefing habits, good husbandry and the continued love of the polyps we cherish and love to keep. So why are you saying all of this Mucho? Well, if you think you have seen some pretty polyps, crazy combinations of colors, rainbows and stunning hues that dropped your jaw, well trust me, "you haven't seen nothing yet". You are about to see an influx of zoas and palys which you never knew existed. The variations in size, color intensity and brilliance even from a distance has yet to be revealed or seen as we know it. Just you wait and see. Happy reefing and safe reefing everyone.


Mucho Reef


"Does mucho reef have connections or what is going on in this thread? or is it all speculation?"



IT WAS ONLY A YEAR AGO !!!!!!!


Mucho
 
Seems like there is pretty limitless variation in zoanthids. I started collecting Montipora and then reached satiation, I have only seen a handful of Montipora in the last year that I don't already have, aren't almost identical to something in my tank, and really make me want to spend money again on them. I'm growing out a tank full of the cool ones that excite me, and then I'll frag when they start to touch.

I caught the zoa/paly bug and did the same thing over again...made a wish list, started hunting, and have almost reached my limit again. Hopefully I'll get a nice LED light built in the next month or two to set up my zoanthid dream tank (20g), and wait for them to grow out. I have to say the colors are much better and more variable on the polyps than they are the montis, and that's why they have my interest at the moment. Waiting for montis to grow can be painfully slow, and so far nearly every zoanthid in my tank has sprouted new polyps in the past month, which is much better for my impatience ;)

Can't wait to see new corals rolling in. Polyps are much more affordable than $50/half inch montis too!

I don't think it's a fad, because there is always new people catching the bug, or losing interest in one coral to gain interest in another.

-Tim
 
Beating around the bush is lame... Mucho, i don't think you have any info. I think you just wanted a thread with out pics and as we saw already it won't happen. ;)
 
^ but it did happen....

Japanese zoas. A whole bunch of new morphs have come in since then. I doubt we have seen them all either!

There is always the possibility of aussi zoas, never know- till it happens.
 
There's a bunch more coming, more deep waters, caribeanne , vietnamis, florida and from other area morphs. It's a business and folks are going to try to find the next IT polyps.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14902963#post14902963 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by the808state
Beating around the bush is lame... Mucho, i don't think you have any info. I think you just wanted a thread with out pics and as we saw already it won't happen. ;)

OK, I'm busted :D
 
Additionally Mucho, i don't know if you have a crystal ball or what but you called this one for sure.
It's funny as i re-read your first post on this thread...One of the first things i used to describe these zoas which are newly arriving on the market as "deepwater", and the latest Japanese zoas, was "colors ive never seen before". ;)
 
Just wait til around October 25th of this year. Just trust me on this Lily, watch what happens on October 25th. I will leave it at that, my lips are sealed. Yes, it's hype and suspense, but watch what is going to happen at this time.
 
Me either Lily, that's my birthday...so send me a card, LOL

I can't believe you fell for that one :D :D
 
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