The Frogfish Files

[Texsun]

Uber, don't think I'm quite ready to play matchmaker but you will be the first to know if I change my mind. I'm also curious as to how you can tell he's a he.

Reefcherie, we had what had to have been close to a full grown (10"+) bright yellow commerson at the Aquarium of the Pacific a few years back. Quite an impressive sight.

 

[Thales]

New Alameda often gets tuberosus.

 

[Mr. Ugly]

Just a quick post. Sorry for the blurry pics.

Set up a new frog house this week Still working on it. So far, 4' cubicle tank, sump, Euroreef skimmer, UV sterilizer, 2X ODNO fluorescent lighting with 1 Phillips daylight and 1 ZooMed actinic.

Froggy family right now includes 3 mummifer, 3 tuberosus, and 2 maculatus. No pics of the little guys yet.

 

[Kinetic]

wow!!! I'm coming over! whatcha doing this weekend?

 

[Reefcherie]

:thumbsup: Very cool!!

 

[Marco67]

Now there's a man that's serious about frogs

 

[uberfugu]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7698510#post7698510 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mr. Ugly

Froggy family right now includes 3 mummifer, 3 tuberosus, and 2 maculatus. No pics of the little guys yet.

Great system! Well thought out.

So what about the dorehensis?

 

[Mr. Ugly]

Hahaha... frogs, frags... can't get enough

Don't know if there was all that much thought put into the system. Mainly just been collecting parts for a while, and always thought it would be super convenient to have a cubicle tank of frogs. The alternative would have been a wall of drilled minibows plumbed into the same system, but I really don't have a place to set that up.

A couple weeks ago, I got a chance at the tank and couldn't pass it up. Luckily it fit a stand I had. Skimmer and sump was going to be an upgrade for a 72 bowfront, but frogs come first. Especially since I had a bunch of new frogs in quarantine.

Nemo and Dory, the 2 dorehensis are in the Minibow 7. Thanks for the new Nemo! I figured to keep the dorehensis in the mb7 for now, since whatever was going on with that setup before was good for 5 batches of eggs.

So I'm looking for additional dorehensis, tuberosus, and mummifer, and hoping that some of the frogs among all of those and the maculatus decide to lay eggs.

 

[gotfrogs]

Well, I have some very bad news my frogfish died yesterday. I don't know what happened. He looked like he was doing great and ate a shrimp the previous day.

 

[Reefcherie]

Dang! I'm sorry to hear that!

How long had you had him and what had your feeding regimen been?

 

[gotfrogs]

I have had him over a month and have been feeding him shrimp from seawater express and attempting to feed him a damsel that he never ate. I was giving him about two shrimp every other day. He would always eat them the second I put them in his tank. All water parameters were perfect with the exception of the pH being a little low (8.1 or so). This will sound strange but I did see him pointing his butt up in the air when he was defecating last week other than that he was acting normal.

 

[Mr. Ugly]

Hmmm... every other day sounds kinda frequent. I go for maybe 2x a week.

 

[tgcreef]

hey uber is ur little red Antennatus tuberosus still kickin?

 

[uberfugu]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7705491#post7705491 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoManMaster
hey uber is ur little red Antennatus tuberosus still kickin?

Unfortunately not. When the two came in, one was floating. It didn't make it past day two. The other had bag-burn on it's chin. This is common on anglers and scorpionfishes that are shipped; their chin rubs against the plastic bag forming a sore and subsequent infection and death follow. It was a matter of a few weeks and he was gone. I have access to a variety of powerful antibiotics (rifampin, cipro) but nothing seemed to stop the tissue loss.

In the past, September and October have been the time when we see shipments of Antennatus tuberosus anglers. These shipments seem to be mainly out of the Philipines and they come in labelled "Misc angler" on the wholesale lists as opposed to Colored angler which is reserved for Antennarius maculatus, pictus and commerson.

Here is a recent (still alive) one, not bright orange but cute nonetheless (thanks Mr. Ugly!)

 

[tgcreef]

i know u work at an lfs so do u guys order form underwater world? if so what are wartskins called on really any list just wartskins or somthin else?

 

[tgcreef]

oh one more question i dont if u remeber but i set up that little 6g eclipse im putin some coral in there but the are eith zoos mushrooms or blasto and monti cap have any ubjections against any of these with it affecting or frog or vise versa?

 

[tgcreef]

my bad maculatus is watskin... ooops

 

[uberfugu]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7705652#post7705652 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoManMaster
oh one more question i dont if u remeber but i set up that little 6g eclipse im putin some coral in there but the are eith zoos mushrooms or blasto and monti cap have any ubjections against any of these with it affecting or frog or vise versa?

The Blastomussa has the capacity to sting the frogfish but is unlikely to.
The zoanthids, mushrooms (with the exception of Amplexidiscus) and monti's should be okay, but remember:

My mother-in-law is capable of living out her life in my bathroom but, is it fair to ask her to do so? Wait, bad example ...

A small reef tank is potentially a beautiful thing but it's existence is balanced on a fine line.
Crash the tank and you lose everything (read: the bigger the system the better).
Continued maintenance will be key.

I haven't ordered from underwater world but, in the case of most anglers from marine fish wholesalers, they are either listed in rather vague, generic terms (brown, green, or colored) or incorrectly (as in multiocellatus, pictus and commerson being labelled as wartskin or warty).
Most LFS owners aren't as well versed in such a limited-appeal fish so they sell them labelled as they bought them.

Sites such as Theresa Zubi's Frogfish site and books such as Scott Michael's Reef Fishes, Vol.1 help all of those interested in ID'd these great fishes.

When I've special-ordered fishes from LFS, I often have to guarantee that I will accept whatever they get in. Remember that even the most homely frogfish is beautiful in my eyes.

Does this make any sense?

Mr Ugly's new dorehensis

 

[Mr. Ugly]

Haha, I haven't even taken a pic of "Nemo" yet Great pic, and thanks for the trade Uber!

Ok, a few new pics.

Two of the new tuberosus pygmy anglers

Sharing a rock

He likes caves

One of the maculatus pretending to be yellow sponge

 

[tgcreef]

well here was my little guys wish i still had him