The Frogfish Files
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Reefcherie
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Gorgeous kpk.....wait, I really mean butt ugly.....nah, I'll stick w/ gorgeous! 
Lefty - so sorry to hear about your losses. It is so frustrating to me to know how many of these fish perish soon after purchase, even by experienced marine aquarists that do all the "right" things. I wish I knew how to influence better collection and handling practices for this species.
Lefty - so sorry to hear about your losses. It is so frustrating to me to know how many of these fish perish soon after purchase, even by experienced marine aquarists that do all the "right" things. I wish I knew how to influence better collection and handling practices for this species.
Mr. Ugly
New member
Lefty, sorry to hear 
Ok, something that might help.
I have a new striatus that I'm quarantining in hyposalinity right now. He's made it to the point were you tend to see early frog deaths.
I"m seeing right now that he has stringy white poop, which can mean internal problem/parasite/infection. He's not breathing hard, which is a good sign. It may be that the hyposalinity is giving him enough edge to withstand the current problems.
It kind of fits in with new anglers dieing upon the first feeding. I've had or seen that happen maybe half a dozen times this year.
For new frogs, I'm thinking hyposalinity, no feeding for a week or so, and try to clear out any internal probs.
Ok, something that might help.
I have a new striatus that I'm quarantining in hyposalinity right now. He's made it to the point were you tend to see early frog deaths.
I"m seeing right now that he has stringy white poop, which can mean internal problem/parasite/infection. He's not breathing hard, which is a good sign. It may be that the hyposalinity is giving him enough edge to withstand the current problems.
It kind of fits in with new anglers dieing upon the first feeding. I've had or seen that happen maybe half a dozen times this year.
For new frogs, I'm thinking hyposalinity, no feeding for a week or so, and try to clear out any internal probs.
Kinetic
Active member
I just saw a post on grimreefers about a maculatus for sale on liveaquaria
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=8213&siteid=20
So Cool!!!
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=8213&siteid=20
So Cool!!!
Reefcherie
Premium Member
It is not a frogfish. It belongs to the Scorpionfish order.
gotfrogs
Premium Member
Today I got some 1" white shrimp from seawaterexpress.com for my frogfish. He ate them right up! The yellow tale damsel that I gave him last week is still in there though. How many 1" shrimp would you feed a 4" long angler and how often? I have had him for about three weeks now with no problems. I think keeping him properly fed is going to be the key.
Reefcherie
Premium Member
If you are going to ration them, I'd go w/ no more than two at a time and twice a week.
My approach w/ Fuggly and now w/ Jabba is to put 50+ shrimp at a time in at once and then the frogfish self-regulates. I'd only suggest trying this approach when the frogfish is already quite full though.
Hopefully you got the warning from George at Seawater Express that you need to keep the shrimp well fed to keep cannibalization to a minimum. Feed them good quality marine fish food and you've gut loaded them for your frogfish!
Best of luck.
My approach w/ Fuggly and now w/ Jabba is to put 50+ shrimp at a time in at once and then the frogfish self-regulates. I'd only suggest trying this approach when the frogfish is already quite full though.
Hopefully you got the warning from George at Seawater Express that you need to keep the shrimp well fed to keep cannibalization to a minimum. Feed them good quality marine fish food and you've gut loaded them for your frogfish!
Best of luck.
Mr. Ugly
New member
Reef Fishes vol 1 has a really great section on frogfish. Also check Zubi's frogfish page http://www.starfish.ch/frogfish/index.html
kpk
Been Reefin'
Maybe too late, but earlier uberfugu told me to push on his belly to relieve him of the bubble that mine gulped up, but it came out itself.
Just a little update on my new guy. He finally at 2 ghost shrimp today. I guess he really doesn't want the feeder fish because everytime I put them in he just looks away, but the ghost's did stand a chance in hell. Makes me feel good that he ate.
Kyle
Just a little update on my new guy. He finally at 2 ghost shrimp today. I guess he really doesn't want the feeder fish because everytime I put them in he just looks away, but the ghost's did stand a chance in hell. Makes me feel good that he ate.
Kyle
Kinetic
Active member
Hi Guys,
After much debate, I've decided to go with an A. Maculatus (max 4 in.). They're currently available at liveaquaria, which seems like they should be more available now a days (or maybe they're just lucky to have a few). I've decided to go with a small tank so the little guy doesn't get lost, but also empower the use of a nice skimmer and make it a nice show tank.
I've planned a 7.5 gallon display with a 12" x 12" x 12" sump that will house a Tunze Nano Reefpack (which has skimmer and carbon/phosphate media chambers). I'm also installing two iceprobe chillers to the sump, along with a pretty big fuge of 12" x 6" x 9". This will all be topped off with an ATO that will be in the future be tied to the RO/DI resevoir that my larger system has.
The tank itself will be a rimless tank made from thick acrylic, rounded front corners, and an external overflow. It will get about 250gph of flow, 70watt HQI lighting, amongst other things. I'll probably only keep zoanthids, cloves, xenia in the fuge, and maybe some neat LPS (maybe try some acans and more blastos).
Anyway, I'd like some input to see if my plans would suffice for a maculatus (I'm sure I spell this differently every time). Below is the thread for the tank plans.
Thanks!
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=870526
After much debate, I've decided to go with an A. Maculatus (max 4 in.). They're currently available at liveaquaria, which seems like they should be more available now a days (or maybe they're just lucky to have a few). I've decided to go with a small tank so the little guy doesn't get lost, but also empower the use of a nice skimmer and make it a nice show tank.
I've planned a 7.5 gallon display with a 12" x 12" x 12" sump that will house a Tunze Nano Reefpack (which has skimmer and carbon/phosphate media chambers). I'm also installing two iceprobe chillers to the sump, along with a pretty big fuge of 12" x 6" x 9". This will all be topped off with an ATO that will be in the future be tied to the RO/DI resevoir that my larger system has.
The tank itself will be a rimless tank made from thick acrylic, rounded front corners, and an external overflow. It will get about 250gph of flow, 70watt HQI lighting, amongst other things. I'll probably only keep zoanthids, cloves, xenia in the fuge, and maybe some neat LPS (maybe try some acans and more blastos).
Anyway, I'd like some input to see if my plans would suffice for a maculatus (I'm sure I spell this differently every time). Below is the thread for the tank plans.
Thanks!
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=870526
Kinetic
Active member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7634710#post7634710 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by uberfugu
Histiophryne, my favorite Genus and species Tex. If you're looking to sell him, I've got a girl waiting.
I got a pair of Antennatus tuberosus over the weekend.
woah crazy! where did you get the tubers in the bay area? Or were they shipped? I've been trying to find these guys or similar dwarves for awhile.
Reefcherie
Premium Member
Uber - have you learned how to sex your frogfish or do you just know you have a girl because she's released an egg raft since you've had her? Have you learned to figure it out by behavior? I've had a few anglers now over the last few years and I have no idea of the sex of any of them...
gotfrogs - no wonder it was tough to get a good shot of that frogfish - he blends
That is cool that a public aquarium had one. I've never seen that and I visit as many of them as I can. I've always hoped to see a full grown Commersons.
