The Frogfish Files

[pugbreath13]

bump for reefD

 

[reefD]

i found the thread ! thanks

 

[reefD]

link to my pic
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1537459&highlight=my+new+angler

 

[adtravels]

I am setting up a frogfish tank and I have a continual supply of very inexpensine camel back shrimp Rhynchocinetas durbanensis and would like to know if they would be deemed a suitable food supply for a medium sized angler?

I can also get damsels and chromis very cheap would a mix of these fish be also suitable.

 

[rjarnold]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14142190#post14142190 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
I am setting up a frogfish tank and I have a continual supply of very inexpensine camel back shrimp Rhynchocinetas durbanensis and would like to know if they would be deemed a suitable food supply for a medium sized angler?

I can also get damsels and chromis very cheap would a mix of these fish be also suitable.

Camelbacks should be good, along with mixing in the damsels and chromis.

 

[Roctopus]

heres one of my old striatus
<a href="http://s204.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/roctopus/?action=view&current=Picture0561.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/roctopus/Picture0561.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

 

[Roctopus]

and another:

<a href="http://s204.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/roctopus/?action=view&current=Picture0231s.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/roctopus/Picture0231s.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

 

[chimmike]

Doesn't look too happy in that first one, with the arrow crab crawling all over him, haha.

Think a small angler/frog would get along with a valentini puffer and a pixie hawkfish?

 

[tom obrecht]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14159614#post14159614 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Roctopus
and another:

<a href="http://s204.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/roctopus/?action=view&current=Picture0231s.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/roctopus/Picture0231s.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Just ran across this thread. Have been thinking about a frogfish display. WOW! With specimens like this available I think it is a go! Awesome fish!!

 

[rjarnold]

Do you know where your A. striatus was imported from? Most of them only have two 'worm-like' filaments their lure, but ones from Japan commonly have 3.

 

[Roctopus]

no idea, LFS had him labeled as a Sargassum fish!!

 

[rjarnold]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14163717#post14163717 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Roctopus
no idea, LFS had him labeled as a Sargassum fish!!

Sadly, that's not an uncommon mistake

 

[El-ahrairah]

Here is my frogfish...

and here he is interrogating a snail

Can anyone tell me what species he is?

Thanks,
-Michael

 

[rjarnold]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14169344#post14169344 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by El-ahrairah
Here is my frogfish...

and here he is interrogating a snail

Can anyone tell me what species he is?

Thanks,
-Michael

It is an undescribed species - did you just get it off LiveAquaria.com?

 

[El-ahrairah]

Are you certain that it is an undescribed species? I was wondering if he could possibly be Antennarius rosaceus.

I did pick him up from Divers Den last week.
-Michael

 

[rjarnold]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14169956#post14169956 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by El-ahrairah
Are you certain that it is an undescribed species? I was wondering if he could possibly be Antennarius rosaceus.

I did pick him up from Divers Den last week.
-Michael

Yes, I am certain. I have another specimen here in my lab and we need more specimens in order to describe it. I had that fish in my 'shopping cart' and was trying to check out when I got the error

I did email LiveAquaria, who as you know sold it knowing it was possibly an undescribed species, and verified that it was and that there was current research being done with it. I asked that my information be sent to the buyer, as we could really use the fish after it dies, but they refused because of 'confidentiality issues'. I told them that they didn't need to copy me on the email or anything, just send the info and the buyer could contact me if they wanted to, but obviously that didn't happen either.

IMO - it's very irresponsible for LiveAquaria to knowingly sell a fish that they fully realize current research is being done on and that the fish is needed for, AND they don't bother confidentially sending the information along to the buyer - the buyer wouldn't feel pressured as no one would know who bought it if they chose not to respond.

SO, back to the topic - if/when the fish dies, we could really use it so that it can named and described (if possible, try to get it into the freezer as quickly as possible after it dies). We would reimburse for the shipping. If you're willing to do that please let me know.
Cheers.

 

[rjarnold]

BTW - I have contacts at the LACM that would happily transport it if/when it dies so you wouldn't have to worry about the shipping.

 

[El-ahrairah]

I know all about the 'trials and tribulations' of research, I graduated with my Ph.D. in marine biology from USC in '06. I will gladly help you out... although I really hope that by the time you've graduated and moved on, he is still happily living in my aquarium.

How large is the specimen you have? Do you have any idea how large they get, my guy is only slightly longer than an inch in length, and I'm very interested to get any possible estimate on his age.

For a small frogfish, so far he is not very cryptic, he quite happily wanders the tank and spends a lot of time in the open.

Any info you could give me on their natural habitat would be much appreciated in order to try and make his captive environment as natural as possible.

Thanks,
-Michael

 

[rjarnold]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14170209#post14170209 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by El-ahrairah
I know all about the 'trials and tribulations' of research, I graduated with my Ph.D. in marine biology from USC in '06. I will gladly help you out... although I really hope that by the time you've graduated and moved on, he is still happily living in my aquarium.

How large is the specimen you have? Do you have any idea how large they get, my guy is only slightly longer than an inch in length, and I'm very interested to get any possible estimate on his age.

For a small frogfish, so far he is not very cryptic, he quite happily wanders the tank and spends a lot of time in the open.

Any info you could give me on their natural habitat would be much appreciated in order to try and make his captive environment as natural as possible.

Thanks,
-Michael

The specimen I have is only about 1.5" total length. I've seen pictures of others in the wild that seemed to be bigger, but probably not more than 3" (though pictures can be deceiving). They seem to be a fairly small species. This is the black version:
http://www.frogfish.ch/species-arten/Antennarius-sp.html
All thus far have been reported from Indonesia.

 

[chimmike]

will a frogfish get along with a pixie hawk and a valentini puffer?

these things are so cool, I can just imaging having one in a tank with those guys....