The Frogfish Files
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Reefcherie
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Agreed and the other thing to be concerned about is whether either of those two fish will pick on the frogfish. Frogfish spend most of their time sitting still, looking like sponges or weeds. Sometimes other fish bother them by picking at them. Most folks have had the best results w/ species specific tanks for their frogfish.
I just got a small nummifer, I also have a supply of cheap camel back shrimp for food.
I put one shrimp in the tank, the frogfish was not interested, even when it walked past its nose.
this morning the shrimp was gone, there is a small change it could have escaped back into the main enclosure via a small gap.
I want to know if there is a chance nummifers are nocturnal feeders? or are they only fish eaters?, previously I had a pictus that could not get enough shrimp.
I put one shrimp in the tank, the frogfish was not interested, even when it walked past its nose.
this morning the shrimp was gone, there is a small change it could have escaped back into the main enclosure via a small gap.
I want to know if there is a chance nummifers are nocturnal feeders? or are they only fish eaters?, previously I had a pictus that could not get enough shrimp.
uberfugu
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The nummifers that I have raised were all opportunistic feeders. They'd take shrimp, fish, pieces of squid and clam. Yours could have gotten the shrimp; I have experienced anglers eating in dim conditions.
Bumblebee gobies have a reputaion of being fin nippers. While the froggie will probably end up eating the goby, there is a chance the goby could pick on the angler. The problem with live foods, be they f/w or s/w, is that their quality varies. Gut-loaded marine organisms probably have a great nutritional profile but, for instance, guppies, raised in less than ideal conditions, might be about the same as a bag of nacho cheese doritos for your frogfish.
I try and get my anglers on a varied diet of quality frozen marine foods (silversides, squid, shrimp, etc.) and supplemented with the occasional live.
I also aquired a red pictus/commerson? today it is tiny 3/4 an inch I have a good source of minute domino damsels (it ate one already). The nummifer is still alive but have not seen it eat although I am a few shrimp down.
I will get some pics tomorrow.
What foods are recommended for tiny froggies,I now have separate systems for brine, glass shrimp, damsels, camelbacks, and some small cardinals. I now am after a bigger froggy
buzzing off frogfish.
I will get some pics tomorrow.
What foods are recommended for tiny froggies,I now have separate systems for brine, glass shrimp, damsels, camelbacks, and some small cardinals. I now am after a bigger froggy
buzzing off frogfish.
reefscape15
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29gal. reefer" And is it benefical in a nutritional way to feed a guppy or damsel once in a while?"
I think a varied diet is a great thing for any marine organism. These guys are oppertunistic predators in the wild and will eat, or try to eat, anything-any shape or size-that they can. I usually feed mine krill that i thaw in a small cup of HOT water and vitamin mix. once thawed, i usually give a couple light squeezes on the krill thinking that it soaks up some of the vitamins. I am down to feeding only every 10 days, 2 pieces about the size of your fingernail. On occasion i feed squid or clam chunks, saltwater glass shrimp, or any other live saltwater feeder i can find.
I think a varied diet is a great thing for any marine organism. These guys are oppertunistic predators in the wild and will eat, or try to eat, anything-any shape or size-that they can. I usually feed mine krill that i thaw in a small cup of HOT water and vitamin mix. once thawed, i usually give a couple light squeezes on the krill thinking that it soaks up some of the vitamins. I am down to feeding only every 10 days, 2 pieces about the size of your fingernail. On occasion i feed squid or clam chunks, saltwater glass shrimp, or any other live saltwater feeder i can find.
Hi, I just got this frogfish, sold as painted frogfish. Is it so?
Are these fuzzy patches on the body normal?
Will it require something red in the tank to keep a color? Mushrooms (I have these):
or it should be sponge? Large decorative sponges do not live long in my tanks. Maybe red background?
It is ~4 cm (<2") long, including tail. Already eats PE mysis and plankton, will feed more variety in the few next days, the same as for baby lionfish.
One more question:
How do you keep few of them, maybe different species or just different colors, in the same tank? Or are you using dividers, or several 10g tanks, plumbed together? Can you post photo of multi frogfish setup? Just curious, very impressive fish.
Thanks.
Are these fuzzy patches on the body normal?
Will it require something red in the tank to keep a color? Mushrooms (I have these):
or it should be sponge? Large decorative sponges do not live long in my tanks. Maybe red background?
It is ~4 cm (<2") long, including tail. Already eats PE mysis and plankton, will feed more variety in the few next days, the same as for baby lionfish.
One more question:
How do you keep few of them, maybe different species or just different colors, in the same tank? Or are you using dividers, or several 10g tanks, plumbed together? Can you post photo of multi frogfish setup? Just curious, very impressive fish.
Thanks.
Histiophryne psychedelica (the Psychedelic Frogfish) has been described! No, you can't have one for your tank. 
PDF - sorry if this doesn't work for everyone!
http://www.bioone.org/doi/pdf/10.1643/CI-08-129
Video footage:
http://biology.burke.washington.edu/ichthyology/psychedelica/
PDF - sorry if this doesn't work for everyone!
http://www.bioone.org/doi/pdf/10.1643/CI-08-129
Video footage:
http://biology.burke.washington.edu/ichthyology/psychedelica/
seahorsedreams
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My guy
My finger for size comparison.
Roctopus' sargassum in the BOMB!! I would love to have him!
My finger for size comparison.
Roctopus' sargassum in the BOMB!! I would love to have him!
E.intheC
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14432225#post14432225 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by seahorsedreams
My guy
My finger for size comparison.
Roctopus' sargassum in the BOMB!! I would love to have him!
that's one of the neatest looking fish I've seen! Congrats on the find!
jmasterdiver
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14424803#post14424803 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rjarnold
Histiophryne psychedelica (the Psychedelic Frogfish) has been described! No, you can't have one for your tank.
PDF - sorry if this doesn't work for everyone!
http://www.bioone.org/doi/pdf/10.1643/CI-08-129
Video footage:
http://biology.burke.washington.edu/ichthyology/psychedelica/
That's so awesome Rachel! Thanks for sharing those links. When can I have one for my aquarium?
--Jessica
I have a frogfish, not the typical genus you find in the aquarium trade, though every once in awhile they do come in. Anyways, I got it back in December '08, I believe, and kept it until the end of January '09. At that time I went to Florida for vacation and he escaped from his 'pen' while I was away. Despite repeated attempts to find him with the flashlight (even getting up in the middle of the night and going in to work to look for him), I never found it. I figured my anemone or my big scoly had eaten his remains after he'd died. Both the scoly and anemone will take out pretty good-sized fishes and digest them very quickly (after they've died and floated into their tentacles). This was an important species for me, so I was fairly upset that it was gone.
In all this time, I've only had one unexplained disappearance of a fish, and it was a newly introduced 6-line wrasse. Today I was searching for a coral frag that had gone missing, and I saw, unmistakeably, the outline of this frogfish. He was pressed up between a rock in the back and backside of the aquarium, so I grabbed a pair of tongs to try to catch him. As I figured though, he wriggled away quickly. But now I know where he is, and I will be tearing out some rock tonight.
The biggest question I have, though, is how in the world did he survive all this time!? ONE fish gone, in three months. There are no hermits in my tank, but there were three emerald crabs. They're hard to find though, but I do see the big one on occasion. So assuming he ate the other 2 and the wrasse, could he really have survived that long? I'm flabbergasted.
In all this time, I've only had one unexplained disappearance of a fish, and it was a newly introduced 6-line wrasse. Today I was searching for a coral frag that had gone missing, and I saw, unmistakeably, the outline of this frogfish. He was pressed up between a rock in the back and backside of the aquarium, so I grabbed a pair of tongs to try to catch him. As I figured though, he wriggled away quickly. But now I know where he is, and I will be tearing out some rock tonight.
The biggest question I have, though, is how in the world did he survive all this time!? ONE fish gone, in three months. There are no hermits in my tank, but there were three emerald crabs. They're hard to find though, but I do see the big one on occasion. So assuming he ate the other 2 and the wrasse, could he really have survived that long? I'm flabbergasted.
jmasterdiver
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Rachel,
I am of the opinion that they can live for some time without reliable meals. I saw one sit in a store in Renton (not Barrier Reef, and the store isn't there any more), for more than 6 months with an occasional meal at best. He looked really wasted at the end and wouldn't eat anything. I don't think they ever fed him until I came in on the monthly rounds and reminded them, and then he got a guppy or two if the other fish didn't beat him to it. They had him in a tank with fuzzy dwarf lions, a coccineus I think. This has been about a year ago now.
Also, I have seen my coccineus take out large amphipods, so your guy may be eating some of those. My indicus tried to take out my brittle star the other day, but lets an emerald crab live (so far, and he is well fed otherwise). I really do think these fish will eat anything. So do you have a shaggy to rehome now? What species was this?
I am of the opinion that they can live for some time without reliable meals. I saw one sit in a store in Renton (not Barrier Reef, and the store isn't there any more), for more than 6 months with an occasional meal at best. He looked really wasted at the end and wouldn't eat anything. I don't think they ever fed him until I came in on the monthly rounds and reminded them, and then he got a guppy or two if the other fish didn't beat him to it. They had him in a tank with fuzzy dwarf lions, a coccineus I think. This has been about a year ago now.
Also, I have seen my coccineus take out large amphipods, so your guy may be eating some of those. My indicus tried to take out my brittle star the other day, but lets an emerald crab live (so far, and he is well fed otherwise). I really do think these fish will eat anything. So do you have a shaggy to rehome now?
What species was this?
