The "How to go Barebottom thread."

Reefman77 Based on the fact the post previous to yours is 5 months old. I'd say this thread has run it's course. As for the HDPE, it is basically the same think. I work in the culinary field. The HDPE is National Sanitation Foundation (NSF) certified as food grade. Thicknesses are pretty standard. I think you'll find that it is 1/2" to 5/8". As far as what you should need... I believe that most folks install the boards 1 - to give rock something to hold onto as opposed to sliding on and scratching the glass / acrylic 2-reflect light to make the tank brighter. The stuff you linked to should work just fine.
 
Yes, they are the same thing. :)

I would consider not using it, whatever you have for a bottom will get covered with corraline. The starboard is harder to clean, and traps detritus. I does provide protection against rock collapse
 
If you can figure out how to not stack any of your rock, then go without the starboard. If your rock tumbles and breaks the bottom glass you will wish you had spent the $100
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8651258#post8651258 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Henry Bowman
Reefman77 Based on the fact the post previous to yours is 5 months old. I'd say this thread has run it's course.
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Classics never run their course..... :rolleyes:
 
read through this thread, didnt skip any of the relative posts. I started removing the good LR from my fuge and starting cooking it yesturday. Doing it in a old 55 gallon tank with 2 aquaclear 400s in there and a bunch of towels over the whole thing.

Anyways when I upgrade to slightly smaller 90 gallon 36x36x18 cube I plan to suspend the LR with acrylic rods and anchor some of them with bulk heads. I will run a 7500 dolphin ampmaster closed loop with some alternating current exits. I already own a G3 skimmer and I am only doing a small mag 12 for return.

Sump is going to be super accesible so I can clean it and I am already doing the "Blu coral method" proposed in the italian tank thread
 
Laakmann. I have been following the Blu Coral method also. I have ordered starboard and will be using a "reefrack" that I had purchased earlier with some acrylic rods to keep the rock "floating" above the bottom (about 1.5") The rock will actually sit on a series of rods that I will drill holes in the SB for. My rock is already "cooking" I have a ton of flow in my 90(2nd set up) with Tunzes. I am also considering a second skimmer to pull the pappone out after I have fed the tank.

Hope this method works. From all that I have read and researched, I expect good things.
 
I am also BB and started the blue coral method recently....without the HGH which just isnt cost efficient IMO and without the crazy high alkalinity(i just dont see that as necessary either)plus my corals wouldnt appreciate the swing

I wish i cooked the rocks due to some bubble algae, but dont have a nutrient problem so i skipped the rock cooking.

My corals love the Pappone.......look up "pappone" in wordreference.com for italian to english and you get "pimp"...thought that was funny, must be some kind of pun
 
Why no fuge in a BB system?

I am assuming becasue in a BB system there should be no nitrates to feed the macro, therefore it would slowly die, and ultimately contaiminate the water??? Also, the macro probably holds some of the larger pieces of food and other junk.
 
If your purpose of a fuge is to grow macroalgae for the purpose of removing nitrates and phosphates it is assanine. Chaeto etc. shouldnt grow in a functional BB system. I guess the only purpose of a fuge in a BB system would be maybe a remote DSB, which IMO defeats the purpose as well, or a place for pods to live/reproduce unmolested...me i dont have pod eaters so my whole system is a fuge, just without the algae(of any kind, oh except some nagging valonia)
 
Blu Coral Method

Blu Coral Method

Please post a link to the Blu Coral thread.
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Here you go. It is a long thread but the method looks promising.
Basically they are running bb tanks with monster skimmers. High alk and Ca.

They feed a mixture of fresh shellfish that is blended with some RO water and a little sugar. The mixture is then frozen into small ice cube trays and the tank is fed once or twice a week.They disable the protein skimmer then add the HGH / Amino acids to the tank then 2 hours later , add the "pappone" (blended raw seafood, mostly shellfish)

In Italy they are using HGH (Human growth Hormones / Steriods) that are illegal to obtain here in the US. Some of the Italians are not using the HGH because it is very expensive. The discussion has turned to amino acid addition since the HGH basically converts to AA's in the tank. (this is my understanding of the method, I have been following the thread)

Take the time to read through the whole thing. I have cut and pasted the pappone recipe to my PC at home and can send it to you. Just PM me and I can fwd it to you.


www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=971190
 
I am in the planning stage of my new 200g tank.

Last time I kept a marine tank I had a DSB as seemed to be the advised method at the time.

I did notice when I pulled that tank down the DSB was more like a blackish mud then sand near the bottom, it smelt and look quite bad (the tank had been sort of OK) and sooner or later it would have crashed my tank.

So this time I am thinking no DSB, I read this thread and others but might have missed a few points so can someone clarify a few query’s for me.

1. How much % wise of the NO3 cycle in an average tank using the DSB /live rock method is actually performed by the DSB?

2. The only downside (besides looks) of a BB is reduction of NO3 cycle capacity?

3. If that’s correct would a sulfur nitrate filter make up the difference? Ie: deltec NF511 it is 3.4kg ( not sure if that is currently available in the US) http://www.theaquariumsolution.com/?q=node/26

Thanks,
Wayne
 
Wayne, the sulfer nitrate filter should serve you well. I have a bb with a remote DSB in the sump. The positives are that it does lower NO3 AND doesnt collect the detritus that a DSB does in the tank. Anthony Calfo has contributed greatly to the idea of a R(emote)DSB keeping a good flow over the top of the sand therefore preventing the detritus build up and keeping the bed cleaner.

FWIW...
 
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