The "How to go Barebottom thread."

[SeanT]

Since it has only been 2 weeks in your tubs I would give it some more time.
Scrub the algae off with a stiff bristled brush before you dunk them.

Sean

 

[prodman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13026951#post13026951 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SeanT
Since it has only been 2 weeks in your tubs I would give it some more time.
Scrub the algae off with a stiff bristled brush before you dunk them.

Sean

I have been and will keep scrubbing. I have another 3 weeks before my new tank arrives so i continue to let them do there thing

 

[Patis46]

Actually i what i ment to ask was if i could throw it all in at the same time uncooked?
Thanks
Pat

 

[SeanT]

Pat,
Are you wanting to "cook" it all together?
If so then yes, that would be fine.

Sean

 

[fishnugget]

I have had a repeating problem with phosphates. Would cooking rock fix this? My only problem is what to do with my fish & corals when I remove rock to cook it. My biology would be gone. Also, do you have any pictures of rock racks you have made?

I already run bare bottom. Cyno has always been an issue with me. Bare bottom or DSB.

Want to do tank & go more SPS. Getting rid of leathers.

 

[SeanT]

Just leave the corals and fish in the tank.
With a good skimmer and smaller, more frequent rwater changes during this time you will have no ill effects.

As for BB or DSB...everyone has their own preference.
I prefer BB.

Sean

 

[skippyreef]

Will cooking the rock also take care of Aiptasia infested rock?

 

[pfy333]

Aiptasia is the devil it will survive, well at least mines did. That particular rock was also in the sun for about a week:eek1:.

 

[SeanT]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13129444#post13129444 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by skippyreef
Will cooking the rock also take care of Aiptasia infested rock?

Aiptasia will not survive.

 

[SeanT]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13129738#post13129738 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pfy333
That particular rock was also in the sun for about a week:eek1:.

You are saying your rock was out of water for a week and aiptasia survived?
I find that...unlikely.

 

[adtravels]

After reading this thread and going bb I really dont think cooking rock is nessesary it massively reduces biodiversity in your system and nitrates and phosphates can be reduced by vodka or prodibio etc. I removed my sand in an afternoon put the rock back in did a 30 percent water change and 2 months later the nitrates never went above 2 I dosed prodibio all the while and have massive flow a good skimmer and good husbandry, and all the sponges, tunicates, filter feeders and algaes I had before (I like algae, i dont see it as my fish and snails graze it but I know its there as it grows in my sump)

 

[SeanT]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13132091#post13132091 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
After reading this thread and going bb I really dont think cooking rock is nessesary it massively reduces biodiversity in your system

How so?
Removal of algae, mojano, aiptasia etc. may indeed reduce the diversity, but I sense you are not referring to that.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13132091#post13132091 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
and nitrates and phosphates can be reduced by vodka or prodibio etc. I removed my sand in an afternoon put the rock back in did a 30 percent water change and 2 months later the nitrates never went above 2

I don't have detectable nitrates at all.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13132091#post13132091 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
and have massive flow a good skimmer and good husbandry,

Those are prerequisites in most successful reef tanks.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13132091#post13132091 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
and all the sponges, tunicates, filter feeders and algaes I had before (I like algae, i dont see it as my fish and snails graze it but I know its there as it grows in my sump),

Sponges, tube worms (of many varieties), pods etc survive the "cooking" process.

That algae in your sump is a sign...guess what of.

 

[skippyreef]

So sean the Aiptasia will die during the cooking process then?

I guess this may be a silly question but what should I do with my fish during the cooking phase? I have a serious Aiptasia problem and would beed to cook all the rock at one time.

 

[SeanT]

Leave them in the tank of course.

Add some large PVC fittings for them to sleep/hide in so they don't get stressed.

While taking out the rock to dunk and swish during "cooking" take the opportunity to inject the aiptasia with kalk/hot water.
This will expedite their demise.

 

[skippyreef]

Thanks,

I think I will also need to include a small tub of sand for my Leopard Wrasse to hide in but other than that I can take out the rock in 1/3rds as you suggest and let it cook. Maybe that way the fish will not get so stressed and it will give me time to build some forms for the rock to go on.

 

[pfy333]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13130657#post13130657 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SeanT
You are saying your rock was out of water for a week and aiptasia survived?
I find that...unlikely.

Yea that particular rock was out in the sun for a week. I wanted what ever was on the rock to die so I could stick it in my bin (about 20 gal.) with my other rocks so I could get a ammonia spike in hope to get a nitrogen cycle going and eventually put in my display. Ammonia was at 6 PPM, I thought that was enough because it took like 2 weeks to go down. After 5 weeks went by I put that 1 rock that was in the sun in my main display (that would be the only rock, brand new tank). 3 weeks went by and thats when I saw that 1/8" devil. I was shock because I thought cooking the rocks would kill it.
Shawn I was thinking, do you think maybe it jump from another rock to this particular rock......sounds more logical after I read what I wrote .

 

[plc001]

Questions:

If I where to go BB, would my flow and skimmer be enough?

Flow:
CL with a Dart (3600 gph) and the main system pump is a Eheim 1262 (about 700 gph). That is about 4300gph.

Skimmer:
Deltec APF600 Skimmer.

Its a 120g (5' x18" x 26")

 

[skippyreef]

Good question!

I would like to know as well.

I have twin tunze 6100's and two Vortec (3000 gph) on the way as well as a red Dragon 6.5M3 return. Skimmer is an H&S A-1260 with two Eheim 1260's running it.

 

[stunreefer]

plc001 and skippyreef, what is the TSV of your reefs? Is it listed in your signature?

 

[skippyreef]

My total system is 380 gallons