The makings of a pair? My attempt with two Christmas Island Pomacanthus imperator
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copps
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Hey Chelsey... yes... the beautiful little girl is actually a blue angel (despite her color you can tell by looking at the fourth vertical line... it's straight in blues and curved in queens)... anyway here is her around when I got her...
She had velvet when I obtained her and I had to treat her quickly which put off her feeding... she pulled through and has settled in well... these are some more recent shots of her although she has since settled into a barely aberrant coloration...
I've has many morphs... and some other xanthic angels that reverted... this was a xanthic bicolor angel when it was collected...
... and a few weeks later when I received it... unfortunately this fish only lasted about 48 hours...
Copps
She had velvet when I obtained her and I had to treat her quickly which put off her feeding... she pulled through and has settled in well... these are some more recent shots of her although she has since settled into a barely aberrant coloration...
I've has many morphs... and some other xanthic angels that reverted... this was a xanthic bicolor angel when it was collected...
... and a few weeks later when I received it... unfortunately this fish only lasted about 48 hours...
Copps
I couldn't remember if it was a blue or a queen...thank you for the clarification 
That's a bummer about her changing so much but she's still nice! If you ever want to get rid of her buddy the juvi regal please PM me 
I have seen the pictures of the xanthic bicolor and have those saved on my computer as well, I didn't know you ended up with it. What happened that it only lasted 48 hours? If you couldn't keep that fish alive then NOBODY could!
That's a bummer about her changing so much but she's still nice! If you ever want to get rid of her buddy the juvi regal please PM me I have seen the pictures of the xanthic bicolor and have those saved on my computer as well, I didn't know you ended up with it. What happened that it only lasted 48 hours? If you couldn't keep that fish alive then NOBODY could!
DamnPepShrimp
Moved On
That bicolor is gorgeous! What is so special about the emperor though? My CXI looked just like that, more of a yellow tail. Unfortunately it died after shipping.
copps
Premium Member
Some fish are "living dead", and no matter what ones does there is a period of a few days when alot can happen... especially on a fish like this that took such a long trip... on top of this full grown Centropyge bicolor are not the easiest angels to adapt... it was fine though... I learned long ago not to worry about things out of my control... in this hobby and in life in general...
All CXI emps are special... what made this guy special was the fact that it was a subadult already showing the orange tail... most all CXI emps imported are large adults... juveniles are uncommon and usually special order... and a changing specimen like this I've never seen out of CXI... a beautiful specimen it was!
DamnPepShrimp
Moved On
Your juvi is showing an orange tail as well right? That one I guess has somewhat of an orange tail, but not what I'd like to think of CXI emperors. I think I am going to pass on getting another one, incase it doesn't have the orange tail or it fades. Gotta find an emperor with a streamer forming now! Just want it to be different then every other emperor you see out there. To me, only the orange tail or streamer will set it apart.
rachenbrazil
Member
can I add 2juv to form a pair of emperor angels?
Vili_Shark
New member
It can be done as long as the tang is large enough cause there might be some conflicts between the two.
I usualy reccomend doing it with 2 Juvies of a different size of a small adult and a juvi and only in a large tank.
I usualy reccomend doing it with 2 Juvies of a different size of a small adult and a juvi and only in a large tank.
jmaneyapanda
Commencing hatred
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15371586#post15371586 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by copps
Getting caught up here guys... check out this orange tail changing specimen I got... the only one I've ever seen... he ended up going to a friend though as Pomacanthus do not generally form trios...
Funny, I dont remember receiving this fish.
DamnPepShrimp
Moved On
I'd say your better off getting a juvi and a small adult. I don't think two juvi's will work out ok.
Do all pomocanthus angels form pairs? What about holocanthus?
Do all pomocanthus angels form pairs? What about holocanthus?
jensfrancois
New member
John, great thread you got here. Can you explain a little further what you wrote earlier?
As a european fish-lover, I'm planning on keeping a harem of C. eibli, but unfortunately I don't have a lot of examples around here. So I was wondering whether you have any tips for me on introducing a harem like this? I'm sure I can learn a lot from an experienced person like you...
Thanks a lot!
Jens.
mapleredta
Reef addict
Beautiful fish collection you have!
copps
Premium Member
Yes... I'll address this below in response to jenfrancois' post... as to whether or not Pomacanthus will form actual pairs in captivity... who knows? Let's find out...
Yes... and yes... although some Holacanthus show haremic social structures as I saw with Holacanthus passer in the Galapagos...
Hey Jens! There is not a simple fast answer to this question as there are a few intricacies... but what I always recommend is that people worry about the individual specimens first before mixing them... mixing angels is stressful, and the #1 rule when we get new fish is to keep stress down as little as possible... Get your fish fat, happy, and adapted before even attempting... start with small specimens if possible, as angels are protogynous hermaphrodites and large males can be belligerent... when they are all adapted, add simultaneously, or allow them to see each other before being able to touch by various means... when you do mix keep your tank lights off for a few days (it's a cloudy day on the reef... your corals will be fine)... once they're getting along... they WILL eventually spawn...
Actually next year I should be speaking on this subject at a conference in Holland... I go into much more detail then!
I do... together now for over four years...
I have two other single small specimens...It's funny you ask, as I've witnessed a fascinating observation recently... In this system I still have a piece of egg crate dividing the tank into essentially a 200 gallon area and a 90 gallon area... the 90 gallon area is my "transition zone" for new additions... but I have left it there as I have found that there is absolutely NO WAY two moorish idols can live together long term (the key is long term)! I have to find a home for my second idol before I can remove this divider... but anyway... the juvenile emperor had not changed one bit towards her adult color since I got her (check the date... well over a year ago) despite being otherwise healthy and adapted. A few weeks ago the juvenile ended up in the "tranistion zone" away from the adult by either jumping over or squeaking under. Since it's been in the other zone away from the adult, it has began changing VERY rapidly to its adult colors, I suspect because it is separated now... while this is of course tough to prove it is still a fascinating observation... I've grown many angels to adulthood and witnessed the color change, but again this is by far the fastest... we'll see where it goes from here... I plan to leave it where it's at for now... we'll see!
Copps
pookstreet
Registered Stick Killer
John, it's always enlightening to read your dissertations. I am fast becoming another angelfish fan and exploring beyond my comfort zone of Genicanthus angels
