The T5 Q&a Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
HELP! Lighting a 125 mix reef tank
I've got a 4 ft tek light 6 bulb t-5 fixture. I know it's to short but it's what I've got for now building a new light soon but I need a bulb config. What k bulbs should I get. I've got 2 Actinic blues 2 18000k and 2 6700k. And now have green alg and what looks to be the start of red slime. Everything tests great other than phosphate tested 1-2 ppm. Tank is not new it's been running for over 2 years. It's just that my original light system I bought used has now quit. Using this till I get my new one done. Tank is also viewed from both sides.
 
Last edited:
I see most users in this thread use a majority of ATI Blue plus bulbs in their t5 setup with only 1 white in their setup of 4 bulbs or 2 in their setup of 8. I do love the blue effect and look but I was told by several people when setting up my lighting system that the white bulbs are far more beneficial to coral growth. Is this not true as i see many of you go with more blue bulbs? or do you sacrifice the potential coral growth benefits?
 
I see most users in this thread use a majority of ATI Blue plus bulbs in their t5 setup with only 1 white in their setup of 4 bulbs or 2 in their setup of 8. I do love the blue effect and look but I was told by several people when setting up my lighting system that the white bulbs are far more beneficial to coral growth. Is this not true as i see many of you go with more blue bulbs? or do you sacrifice the potential coral growth benefits?

It isn't all that true. Corals use blue and red light the most for growth.

I run one white bulb out of 4 and I don't care for it. I get pretty darn good growth in all my stuff. Water parameters are more important for growth then lighting in my opinion.
 
HELP! Lighting a 125 mix reef tank
I've got a 4 ft tek light 6 bulb t-5 fixture. I know it's to short but it's what I've got for now building a new light soon but I need a bulb config. What k bulbs should I get. I've got 2 Actinic blues 2 18000k and 2 6700k. And now have green alg and what looks to be the start of red slime. Everything tests great other than phosphate tested 1-2 ppm. Tank is not new it's been running for over 2 years. It's just that my original light system I bought used has now quit. Using this till I get my new one done. Tank is also viewed from both sides.

For 6 bulbs:

4 ATI Blue Plus, 1 ATI Purple Plus and 1 ATI Aquablue
 
Dont you need some white in there for superior coral growth? this is what I have been told


Myth.

Like I stated above, corals use blue and red the most for growth. Algae uses greens and yellows. Do want to grow algae or corals?

The Aquablue and Purple are both white/daylight bulbs. They provide plenty of the greens and yellows and even out the full spectrum.

I suggest to not listen to everything you are told in this hobby. There are a lot of myths out there that people take as fact.

Lighting and corals is a HUGE topic that I have studied for over 2 years. Grim Reefer and others on here have studied and played with it for even longer. When the majority of people and studies show that you don't need "white" bulbs for growth, it debunks the old myth.

Here is a good topic to go study: At what depth are most of our corals found at in the ocean? What spectrum of light are those corals receiving? :idea:

I would start there....
 
I have a 75g acrylic, 48L x18W x 20H, mostly sps, one clam on sand. I have a 6 bulbs PowerModule. I'm contemplating whether to upgrade to 100g 48L x 24W x 20H or not. My question is will the 6 bulbs PM good enough for 24" Width? Or anything I can do without having to buy a new fixture. Thanks!
 
Hi Grim,
When I was in vacation, my friend accidentally broke my ATI Blue Plus. He has replaced it with Hamilton Technology's Actinic Blue. Is this equivalent? Looking at it with my eyes seems to be very close.

Thanks
 
I have a 75g acrylic, 48L x18W x 20H, mostly sps, one clam on sand. I have a 6 bulbs PowerModule. I'm contemplating whether to upgrade to 100g 48L x 24W x 20H or not. My question is will the 6 bulbs PM good enough for 24" Width? Or anything I can do without having to buy a new fixture. Thanks!

You are pushing it with only 6 bulbs and a 24" width. You would need to raise the fixture up a couple inches to get some better spread.

You can do it with 6 bulbs, just use proper placing of corals.
 
For 6 bulbs:

4 ATI Blue Plus, 1 ATI Purple Plus and 1 ATI Aquablue

Can you tell me how I should place these bulbs. 1 switch controls the outer 2. And another switch controls the inner 4. What should I set the timmers to? My tank is viewed from all sides but one side is view more offten than the other. The most viewed side is what I consider the front.

Thanks for the help btw.
 
Myth.

Like I stated above, corals use blue and red the most for growth. Algae uses greens and yellows. Do want to grow algae or corals?

The Aquablue and Purple are both white/daylight bulbs. They provide plenty of the greens and yellows and even out the full spectrum.

I suggest to not listen to everything you are told in this hobby. There are a lot of myths out there that people take as fact.

Lighting and corals is a HUGE topic that I have studied for over 2 years. Grim Reefer and others on here have studied and played with it for even longer. When the majority of people and studies show that you don't need "white" bulbs for growth, it debunks the old myth.

Here is a good topic to go study: At what depth are most of our corals found at in the ocean? What spectrum of light are those corals receiving? :idea:

I would start there....

You will find that it's mostly blue light... I just had the privilege to have a one on one with Dana Riddle and he recommends more blue light than anything.
 
I agree with most of what you’re saying but sps corals are found just below the surface of the ocean where the spectrum is actually 6,500k which is daylight white no 20,000k blue which is much deeper in the ocean.

Algae do not use green and yellow light for photosynthesis. Algae are plants and just like plants they reflect green light and do not use it for photosynthesis. Also, just so we are clear corals do not use light, it is the symbiotic algae living in their tissue that use light. So corals photosynthesize with the same spectrum as algae do which is where I agree with what you are saying. Corals utilities red and blue light the best for photosynthesis. So as long as you are running a large amount of blue and some red light your corals will photosynthesize.

A white bulb isn’t white it is a mix of a bunch of different colors such as violet, blue, green, yellow, orange, red. I like to run a couple day light white bulbs in my mix because it helps keep the color of the corals and fish natural.

Myth.

Like I stated above, corals use blue and red the most for growth. Algae uses greens and yellows. Do want to grow algae or corals?

The Aquablue and Purple are both white/daylight bulbs. They provide plenty of the greens and yellows and even out the full spectrum.

I suggest to not listen to everything you are told in this hobby. There are a lot of myths out there that people take as fact.

Lighting and corals is a HUGE topic that I have studied for over 2 years. Grim Reefer and others on here have studied and played with it for even longer. When the majority of people and studies show that you don't need "white" bulbs for growth, it debunks the old myth.

Here is a good topic to go study: At what depth are most of our corals found at in the ocean? What spectrum of light are those corals receiving? :idea:

I would start there....
 
Grim,

I picked up a used Current Outer Orbit Pro fixture for a 120g tank. I have 2 brand new 15k 250 watt XM bulbs for the halides. Also received 2 brand new Geismann t5's, one is a Pure Actinic, and the other is an Actinic +. If i were to use these t5's, what other 2 bulbs would you recommend. If i were to buy 4 new T5's, what would you recommend to compliment the 15k XM's? Thanks in advance for the help!
 
I agree with most of what you're saying but sps corals are found just below the surface of the ocean where the spectrum is actually 6,500k which is daylight white no 20,000k blue which is much deeper in the ocean.

Algae do not use green and yellow light for photosynthesis. Algae are plants and just like plants they reflect green light and do not use it for photosynthesis. Also, just so we are clear corals do not use light, it is the symbiotic algae living in their tissue that use light. So corals photosynthesize with the same spectrum as algae do which is where I agree with what you are saying. Corals utilities red and blue light the best for photosynthesis. So as long as you are running a large amount of blue and some red light your corals will photosynthesize.

A white bulb isn't white it is a mix of a bunch of different colors such as violet, blue, green, yellow, orange, red. I like to run a couple day light white bulbs in my mix because it helps keep the color of the corals and fish natural.


Hmm, so if I put all blue bulbs over my refugium, how does the algae react?

I understand and agree with you but just wondering why blue light won't keep algae if that is what algae uses.

I have also come to find that algae in corals is more of a hindrance. In my tanks, too much algae in a coral hinders growth a lot more than not enough algae. For good growth, it is all about food. Corals are animals, not plants. To treat them like plants is insane. They need real food to live and grow, not just light.

While there are quite a few SPS at the surface (15 feet or shallower) there are a lot of SPS colonies deeper down. Did you know that by 15 feet into water that red light is non-existent? By the time you hit 30 feet or so, there is a little green left but it is all blue wavelengths from that point on.

The majority of the coral reefs in the world are found in the 30-90 feet range. New discoveries may be changing this, as we find reefs 4,500 feet below water surface, but to my knowledge(which is pretty infant) most reefs are still below 30 feet of water.

White is a combination of red, blue and green. I think that daylight bulbs are important as well. I would never run a tank with all ATI Blue Plus or equivalent bulbs. You need a full spectrum lighting but I heavily weigh mine towards the blue, just how the ocean does.

The original poster wanted to know why I recommended only one or two white bulbs. I gave them my reason. I am not a scientist or even pretend to be. I just know what works in our tanks and try to share the knowledge. Thank you for pointing out the errors in my above statement. That is how I learn!
 
Can you tell me how I should place these bulbs. 1 switch controls the outer 2. And another switch controls the inner 4. What should I set the timmers to? My tank is viewed from all sides but one side is view more offten than the other. The most viewed side is what I consider the front.

Thanks for the help btw.

These are always a little hard. You want the color of the tank to look the same on both sides. I would actually go with 4 ATI Blue Plus and 2 ATI Purple Plus in this case.

ATI Blue Plus
ATI Purple Plus
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Purple Plus
ATI Blue Plus

You could certainly grab an Aquablue to play with and see what you think. Just put the purple bulb where all the pink corals are. :lol2:
 
I am no scientists either but I am a high school teacher lol. Corals are animals I agree 100%, but corals get upwards of 97% of their energy in the form of sugars from the algae living in their tissue. The algae, through the process of photosynthesis create sugars which the pass on to the host coral. The reason for corals feeding through ingestion is to get fatty acids and proteins. As said earlier corals have single celled algae living in their tissue that photosynthesis at the same action spectrum as other plants and algae. Take a look at the charts below. Try this out, leave your tank totally dark for 2 months and do nothing but feed your corals. I promise you without a bit of doubt they will die. As the charts below show corals do sue red and blue light just like we both agree. All I am saying is that the algae within the tissue of corals use the same action spectrum as everyday plants or algae.


electromagnetic-spectrum-of-chlorophyll1.jpg



chlab1.gif
 
Why don't you like the 24" bulbs?

I have a 24" fixture over my 36" tank and have liked it.

Anyways you only need 4 bulbs over a 29g.


I figured it would be better for the SPS corals to have the bulbs run the length of the tank, instead of stopping 3" inches from either side.. If im wrong let me know. I was going to build a new canopy to accommodate 36" lights
 
Can i get an opinion from a T-5 expert?

I have a 60x30x20(tall) rimless coming in and i already have a TEK T-5 6 bulb fixture. I'm thinking about keeping this and buying either a Sunpower or Powermodule 6 bulb unit to run in tandem with the TEK unit. Both of these fixtures would be 48" on a 60" tank, which means six inches on each side not directly under light.

1) Is this reasonable to do? Keep in mind I have the option of scrapping the TEK T-5 unit and getting any other lighting situation. I am shooting for a mixed reef, with LPS and SPS. On a 20" tank, I don't necessarily need the STRONGEST lighting.

2) What bulb combo should I use with 12 bulbs?

I was thinking:

Front
Blue Plus
Blue Plus
KZ Fiji
Blue Plus
UVL 6500
Blue Plus
Blue Plus
Blue Plus
KZ Fiji
UVL 6500
Blue Plus
Blue Plus


Any thoughts you have on this setup would be great. I'm fairly sure I don't want to scrap T-5's and just run 3 Lumenbrights. I think I can make it work with T-5's...:rollface:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top