The T5 Q&a Thread

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12934456#post12934456 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer


With the floating canopy the light will be a little higher up off the water I assume.

I would do 8 rows of 2x 39 watt retros overdriven. reefgeek has the Ice Cap T5 retros, The ones they list as T5 VHO are the ones with the ice cap ballasts which will overdrive the lamps. You do need to run a fan blowing in from the rear of the canopy at each end of the lamps to keep them from getting too hot. One at the left and right side and a third larger fan in the center should work.

For lamps

Front
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Aquablue
UVL Aquasun
UVL Super Actinic
ATI Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun or GE 6500K Daylight
ATI Aquablue
ATI Blue Plus


Thanks for the response!

I want to have the canopy (which just serves to block glare) to be very close to the water...may 2-3 inches. So I think with the lights recessed they would be about 5 inches off the water.

So the two fans on the ends blow into the canopy? Does the third in the middle above the lights blows down towards the water?

Thanks!
 
I am a bit embarased to be asking such a basic question but I am confused. Do you figure watts per gallon when buying a T5 unit? Are watts per gallon that are needed the same when buying T5 vs PC vs MH? Specifically, I have a 29 gallon 30x12x18 tank and want to buy T5 so that I can keep a variety of coral types and a clam. I currently have PC and soft coral but would like to upgrade. How do I figure the amount of T5 light needed? I have read through the threads and unfortunately, most of it is over my head. Hope you can help. Thanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12934822#post12934822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JGilvey
Thanks, Grim. Real noob question here, but would I be able to use something like
this kit (with extra endcaps) to run four of them?

I think the ballast will kill the lamps pretty quick. Hit www.fulham.com and there is a tab called "find your ballast" Punch in the closest thing you can find to 4x8 watt T5 and go with that.

I know a 39 watt lamp will die in about 2 weeks being ran on a 54 watt ballast. It is possible you could wire two lamps in series in pairs (4 lamps total) and make it work on that 24 watt ballast but it is far from a sure thing.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12934859#post12934859 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lastlight
Thanks for the response!

I want to have the canopy (which just serves to block glare) to be very close to the water...may 2-3 inches. So I think with the lights recessed they would be about 5 inches off the water.

So the two fans on the ends blow into the canopy? Does the third in the middle above the lights blows down towards the water?

Thanks!

What I mean is a fan at the right side blowing in so the air blows down the end of the lamps/endcaps from back to front and the same thing at the left. You will have two sets at the center buttng up against each other. You want a fan blowing in down those from the rear as well.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12935404#post12935404 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sandyc
I am a bit embarased to be asking such a basic question but I am confused. Do you figure watts per gallon when buying a T5 unit? Are watts per gallon that are needed the same when buying T5 vs PC vs MH? Specifically, I have a 29 gallon 30x12x18 tank and want to buy T5 so that I can keep a variety of coral types and a clam. I currently have PC and soft coral but would like to upgrade. How do I figure the amount of T5 light needed? I have read through the threads and unfortunately, most of it is over my head. Hope you can help. Thanks.

Watts per gallon was never a great standard to go by because there is no way to take all of the variables into consideration.

For your tank a 4x24 watt system will let you grow about anything. Just make sure you get a unit or retro with the good reflectors.
 
Grim...I'm looking for your expert opinion on a bulb combo.

Looks like I'm going with a Tek fixture, the wife saw some tanks with the fixture hanging from the ceiling, and really liked the look. Okay by me, I'm a terrible carpenter, so if I don't have to build a canopy for a retro...:thumbsup: :D.

Going with the 4x24 for a 20g long (30x12x12) SPS reef.

Here's what I'm thinking...

Front of the tank.

ATI Blue +
UV Super Actinic
UV Aqua Sun
ATI Blue +

Thoughts? Looking for good color and growth (of course I am...aren't we all).

Also, something I didn't even think about until now. My overflow is a 24x4 shelf overflow. Did I screw myself? I'm a little worried about it blocking out the back bulb. Thoughts?

Any thoughts on the hanging kit that Reefgeek has?

Thanks in advance. This thread is a freaking monster...I went 7 or 8 splits back, still couldn't find the start. I read through as much as I could stand, but god lord there's a lot of info to sort through. Keep up the good work.
 
As an idea for the shelf overflow, I think if you put some eggcrate dividers in there and toss in some chaeto and use a 65k for your back light, you may have a pretty smoken little fuge there- depends on how deep the water in it is though.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12935871#post12935871 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phenom5
Grim...I'm looking for your expert opinion on a bulb combo.

Looks like I'm going with a Tek fixture, the wife saw some tanks with the fixture hanging from the ceiling, and really liked the look. Okay by me, I'm a terrible carpenter, so if I don't have to build a canopy for a retro...:thumbsup: :D.

Going with the 4x24 for a 20g long (30x12x12) SPS reef.

Here's what I'm thinking...

Front of the tank.

ATI Blue +
UV Super Actinic
UV Aqua Sun
ATI Blue +

Thoughts? Looking for good color and growth (of course I am...aren't we all).

Also, something I didn't even think about until now. My overflow is a 24x4 shelf overflow. Did I screw myself? I'm a little worried about it blocking out the back bulb. Thoughts?

Any thoughts on the hanging kit that Reefgeek has?

Thanks in advance. This thread is a freaking monster...I went 7 or 8 splits back, still couldn't find the start. I read through as much as I could stand, but god lord there's a lot of info to sort through. Keep up the good work.

Go with your listed lamps except put the actinic lamp at the rear so the overflow is partially blocking it, you just sorta screwed yourself :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12936159#post12936159 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by d.can82
As an idea for the shelf overflow, I think if you put some eggcrate dividers in there and toss in some chaeto and use a 65k for your back light, you may have a pretty smoken little fuge there- depends on how deep the water in it is though.

Not a bad idea either. Could use a blue plus lamp in the rear and still get plenty of good growth. No need for the 6500K.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12934403#post12934403 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer I thought maybe something was not right also, like the ballasts were not fully operating. I plugged the fixture into a kila watt meter and it read just a little under 500 watts, so it looks like it is pulling the right wattage. I also beleive the fan is working properly because it speeds up as the fixture gets hotter. What else do you think it may be that is affecting the par? Thank you very much.
Something isn't right. I read PAR on a friends fixture sitting on my tank. The sensor was about 17" under the water with the fixture sitting on the tank frame about an inch and a half above the water line (22" tall tank). Just running a super actinic and Blue Plus the PAR was in the 120's. Because of some hang on back equipment I had at the time the fixture couldn't sit back far enough so the front lamp was about half blocked by the tank frame. At the rear my live rock was a solid wall about 5" from the water surface so the light from the rear lamp was at least partially blocked and we got PAR in the high 300's. I think with my current rockscape and lack of HOB equipment it would do over 400. Even being 6" further away from the target I would expect your readings to be at least in the mid 200's.

You sure the fan is working? Could be the lamps are shot. With 4 blue plus, one pro color which is about the same output as a blue plus with a little luck, one super actinic and one UVL 75/25 my constellation did in the mid 200's. The blue plus were the highest output lamps in the fixture.

T5's might be able to sustain an existing colony with less PAR than a halide, at least the theory sounds good. I am not sure you would match the growth with less PAR though. It's an interesting concept that is unfortunatly above my pay grade :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12936794#post12936794 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by grandp10
I thought maybe something was not right also, like the ballasts were not fully operating. I plugged the fixture into a kila watt meter and it read just a little under 500 watts, so it looks like it is pulling the right wattage. I also beleive the fan is working properly because it speeds up as the fixture gets hotter. What else do you think it may be that is affecting the par? Thank you very much.
 
Hey Grim,

Very informative thread. Am in the process of setting up a102x36x30 FOWLR (maybe just a few softies or LPS). Would like your opinion on a nice T5 set up. Am looking at ATI and aquactinics. Would 2 of the 48 inch 8x54 watt units be sufficient? Do you know if they make legs for the ATI units. Also have one 10 inch squamosa clam from my old system I would like to keep.Also what bulb recommendations. Thank you for your time.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12935406#post12935406 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
I think the ballast will kill the lamps pretty quick. Hit www.fulham.com and there is a tab called "find your ballast" Punch in the closest thing you can find to 4x8 watt T5 and go with that.

I know a 39 watt lamp will die in about 2 weeks being ran on a 54 watt ballast. It is possible you could wire two lamps in series in pairs (4 lamps total) and make it work on that 24 watt ballast but it is far from a sure thing.

Thank you!

Jack
 
Quick question-
just got a new 4x54 Current fixture to light my 75 which will be holding softies, I need some bulb reccomendations
 
Hey Grim,

Love this forum. Very helpful. Thinking of replacing a A duel 250 mh with 2 X t5 39 watts on an SPS dominated reef. Looking at the ATI 48 inch 6 x54w . Would this be enough. If so what bulb combo would you recommend. Tank is a room divider 48 long 24 deep and 17.5 wide.
 
Hi Grim,

I went on line reefgeek.com and I could not find the ATI Blue Blue. The below is what you told me to get.


Front
ATI Aquablue
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
ATI Blue Plus
GE 6500K Daylight or Giesemann Midday
ATI Blue Plus
UVL 75/25
ATI Blue Blue
 
I'm in the midst of upgrading from a 150 tall to a 180. I love my retro T5 on my 150 but want a lighting system that allows me to work in the tank without having someone help me remove the canopy. I can't afford a Maristar type system (for the cost of the system OR the cost of electricity for the MH!) and am trying to compare the Nova Extreme 72" 12X39 and the Constellation 72" 14x39. Is the Constellation really worth the extra $300 plus the cost of the bulbs? I have a ton of monti caps, some SPS and softies in my tank now.
 
I have a 110 flatback-hex its about 27" tal i have 4 54watt t5's over it now but i think i need more i can fit two more in the front but the will be 36" because of the shape of the tank. Im only keeping LPS and softies. Im wanting a lil more blue look what bulbs should i use? and do i need 2 more bulbs or will the 4 work? The only bulbs i can get locally are geisman.


Thanks,
Nathan
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12938043#post12938043 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pinkcoral
Hi Grim,

I went on line reefgeek.com and I could not find the ATI Blue Blue. The below is what you told me to get.


Front
ATI Aquablue
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
ATI Blue Plus
GE 6500K Daylight or Giesemann Midday
ATI Blue Plus
UVL 75/25
ATI Blue Blue

he meant ATI Blue plus
 
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