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The Ultimate DIY Rocks!
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Travis L. Stevens
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Well, 2nd Split and three threads
Yinepu: Not sure. This is 100% my opinion, but I wouldn't use stucco.
Azazael13: Sure! Enlighten us!
andrewsmart
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made my first batch today.
was quite fun i have some ideas i am going to try and then post for tunnels etc.
was quite fun i have some ideas i am going to try and then post for tunnels etc.
Travis L. Stevens
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Ah, but you did
This just means that there are about 2000 replies on this thread as a whole and over 110,000 views. Nice!
Yinepu
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I am a little confused by something.. it was mentioned earlier on to leave the rocks out of water for the first few weeks to a month.. but the ones with salt need to soak to remove the salt crystals deep inside the rock..
Will the few weeks of soaking them remove most of the salt inside (assuming they are only soaked for aproximately two weeks)?
Or is it better to soak them longer just to be on the safe side?
Will the few weeks of soaking them remove most of the salt inside (assuming they are only soaked for aproximately two weeks)?
Or is it better to soak them longer just to be on the safe side?
Yinepu
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ouch... looks like I have a LOT of reading to catch up on!<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9692580#post9692580 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis L. Stevens
Ah, but you did
goldmaniac
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Yinepu:
go back to the page before this one. Then read Travis' summary, it's really good. THEN read Insane Reefer's thorough 'points and tips' that Travis suggests. If you can get thru all of it, there's lots of info on it.
This is 95% of what you need to know.
I like a 1:1:2 ratio of cement: tank sand : Mortons Water Softener salt found at Lowe's or Home Depot, blue bag.
Congrats Travis!
on a side note, our kid #2 is due on Thursday. I have some rock that's been curing in salt for 6 days. I'll be busy for a little while, obviously.
Opinions, please:
should i start to Kure the rock now, after 7 days, or should I just let it Cure in the salt for another two weeks, probably? Honestly, I don't know how often I'll be able to change water during these next couple of weeks.
Thanks everyone!
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go back to the page before this one. Then read Travis' summary, it's really good. THEN read Insane Reefer's thorough 'points and tips' that Travis suggests. If you can get thru all of it, there's lots of info on it.
This is 95% of what you need to know.
I like a 1:1:2 ratio of cement: tank sand : Mortons Water Softener salt found at Lowe's or Home Depot, blue bag.
Congrats Travis!
on a side note, our kid #2 is due on Thursday. I have some rock that's been curing in salt for 6 days. I'll be busy for a little while, obviously.
Opinions, please:
should i start to Kure the rock now, after 7 days, or should I just let it Cure in the salt for another two weeks, probably? Honestly, I don't know how often I'll be able to change water during these next couple of weeks.
Thanks everyone!
-G.
goldmaniac
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thanks - yeah, busy. AND my 8.9 month pregnant wife is watching me make live rock in the garage, wondering when I'm going to get all preparations done for kid#2!!
talk about a peeved pregnant lady
talk about a peeved pregnant lady
I may be wrong ( and I am sure TLS or IR will correct me ) but the shortest time that you can get away with is 3 weeks, and that is under optimal conditions. You let them soak to leech out the chemicals (can't recall exactly which ones).
A typical cycle is this (for me anywa)
1) Make rocks on a Saturday.
2) Have my wife slap me when I walk towards the mold to check on them for at least 5 days.
3) Thursday to Following Saturday: During this point I will take the rocks from mold (longer wait for bigger rocks) and then submerse them.
4) One week from first submerge change water.
5) One week later change again.
6) For the next two weeks I change every 3-4 days.
7) After one month check PH.
8 - ???) Not sure what goes here yet
Fin) Place rocks in tank and let the life grow.
Now I open this up to TLS or IR to point out the error in my ways.
Oh something else I am doing, after the 3 week point I am separating out my rocks into separate containers. I would like to think that small rocks will be ready before the big ones, so this way I can tell individual rocks and know when they are ready.
All of my water changes are in normal water as well, don't have my RO/DI yet, however my final water soak will be in store bought RO/DI I think.
Travis L. Stevens
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Yinepu: It's your personal preference. I would suggest longer, but it will take some trial and error to get right to find out how long it will take for the salt to completely come out of the rocks.
goldmaniac: Congratualtions and Good Luck! I would pull the rock from the salt mold and let it stand for another week or so before soaking to bring the pH down.
Azazael13: There are so many variances that it is difficul to tell how long it will take. As far as your procedures, you're right on except one thing. Since there is ample amount of Ca(OH)2 with newly made rocks, you're better off changing the water more often at first and less often towards the end. In fact, this could theoretically speed up your specific process.
goldmaniac: Congratualtions and Good Luck! I would pull the rock from the salt mold and let it stand for another week or so before soaking to bring the pH down.
Azazael13: There are so many variances that it is difficul to tell how long it will take. As far as your procedures, you're right on except one thing. Since there is ample amount of Ca(OH)2 with newly made rocks, you're better off changing the water more often at first and less often towards the end. In fact, this could theoretically speed up your specific process.
Yinepu
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I have another question... for those who make caves using the rubber glove/balloon method; have you noticed the insides of the caves being very smooth?... or does the salt manage to give them some texture?
I am guessing the amount of smoothness would depend on the wetness of the mix... but rocks I have seen using the balloon/glove for making the caves all look fake when you look inside the caves... (outside = rough... inside = too smooth and man made). Granted the rocks I have seen in person didn't appear to have salt in the mix... so that may have had something to do with it...
I am guessing the amount of smoothness would depend on the wetness of the mix... but rocks I have seen using the balloon/glove for making the caves all look fake when you look inside the caves... (outside = rough... inside = too smooth and man made). Granted the rocks I have seen in person didn't appear to have salt in the mix... so that may have had something to do with it...
Travis L. Stevens
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No salt in the mix has a large portion of what happens with smooth ness, but gloves and balloons will always look manmade when you pull them out. No real way around that except to use a sand or salt mold to make the caves out of.
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