"Thirteen years without any water change!"

[Wett Hands]

Ok folks I came across this while surfing at work.

(What, me work while at my job?. Surely you jest :lmao: )
I'm curious what the RC gurus think of this

http://www.natureef.com/TOM2.htm

 

[drummereef]

That's unfortunate they have to attemp to discredit proven fact in an attempt to sell a useless gimmick of a product. I feel sorry for the animals most of all. :thumbdown

 

[t5Nitro]

I think 250g that just had tank of the month said he has only done 2 water changes on his tank, or something like that.

 

[tedmc2]

I can't really tell what the tank looks like from those small pics.

 

[silverwolf72]

I think Eric Bowman has several tanks that have never had a water change.

 

[Amphiprion]

Not worth it. Eventually, even the most meticulously kept tank will begin to have issues without water changes. It may take years, but it will eventually happen. Personally, I like to nip problems in the bud before they ever occur, which is why I change water regardless of perfect parameters.

 

[virginiadiver69]

Aren't there supplements that are replenished/replaced with water changes?

 

[barjam]

Most of the people I know/read about with large tanks don't do water changes (or very infrequently).

I do them because it is conventional wisdom but I do believe that in the future they will no longer be needed.

 

[bassettmd]

Longest i have been able to go without water changes was 3 months on my 70 gallon system with a high bio load...

virginiadiver69 - there are many things that are replenished with water changes however most of these can be kept at constant levels as long as one keeps up on the top off water.

 

[jer77]

Just some info, table #4 is interesting:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-04/rs/feature/index.php

 

[Young Frankenstein]

Another company trying to make a quick buck. LOL 13 years without any water changes, would you like to breathe the same recycled air for a miserable 13 years ? maybe his fish wish they were dead.

 

[Boca Kris]

Seems like theres so much crap growing in there that the fish barely have room to swim or turn around. From the looks of that one picture I think the tank looks like crap.

 

[Jeff]

I have a buddy with the Naturereef system. He says he does a water change every 18 months. It is a fish only tank with a lot of electronic gadgets. There is NO algae anywhere. There are NO nitrates.
It is also a very boring tank

 

[Shagsbeard]

I'd imagine that if you tested for "everything" it would be possible to run a tank without waterchanges. Problem is... who knows what "everything" actually is? Water changes work, though I can see it being perfectly feasable to run a tank without them.

 

[markandkristen]

whats weird is if someone has a nitrate problem and does water changes not much is accomplished
if someone has phosphate problems and does water changes nothing is accomplished for the most part.
now trace elements is about the only good i can think of

 

[Icefire]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10255699#post10255699 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jer77
Just some info, table #4 is interesting:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-04/rs/feature/index.php

means nothing, estimated

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

Maybe I should stop doing water changes on my reef aquarium so it looks more like a "NatuReef" instead of this

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10260993#post10260993 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by markandkristen
whats weird is if someone has a nitrate problem and does water changes not much is accomplished
if someone has phosphate problems and does water changes nothing is accomplished for the most part.
now trace elements is about the only good i can think of

IME it's quite the contrary.
Water changes will lower your nitrates and/or phosphates but most artificial salt mixes are deficient in one thing or another and need some tweaking...

 

[Steve 926]

Absolutely Gorgeous Tank Gary !

Steve 926

:smokin:

 

[badfish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10261626#post10261626 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
Maybe I should stop doing water changes on my reef aquarium so it looks more like a "NatuReef" instead of this

I agree.
Who needs bulbs with a KR over 5500K? Or HO, VHO, PC, MH, T5, T5 HO, or a Solaris LED system?
Who needs a skimmer? Of any sort?
Who needs a calcium reactor or a phosban reactor?
Who needs a BB or a DSB?
Who needs all the fancy gizmo's that "have" to be with an SW setup up for it to flourish?
Its all an experiment. You have all had live stock die. You can be in the hobby for 20 years and have that new frag you bought die in a few days. Who is to say what is the right way?
I do water changes. But I am not going to criticize some one for trying some thing different. It might be a gimmick for that company but I have heard of people rarely doing a water change and their tank flourishes. This hobby changes every day.