This is not good at all
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OMG Ron, thats worse than horrible! What can we do? Seriously, is there anything that we can do? I mean I know we can't change the damage from the global warming , but there are things that can be done to help prevent further damage. In an earlier post, someone on here stated that the system would recover and adapt. That probably will happen, but the reef as we see it now will not the the same then. I know us as hobbiest can grow and frag what we have to keep them going, but the way the artical reads, the reef as we know it now will no longer be in the near future. Perhaps the best thing to help would education. Educating the world along with some new laws to help control the warming. I don't know, something more needs to be done. I will bring that artical that I have to the shop this week.
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firefish2020
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I think it's just a matter of the price we pay for our modern world.
We like fast cars and SUVs and we leave our appliances on when we are not around. We do this because our parents did it and theirs before them and so on. No generation likes to be the one to start a change. However IF the current models that are coming out are correct WE are in bigger trouble than I had previously thought. It is estimated that within 100 years time the global temperature will be an average of 20 degrees higher than it is today. HOW could the number be so high? I had not considered this aspect. As the ice sheets melt we loose more and more reflection and the planet becomes darker and darker with sea water as the oceans grow larger which causes them to absorb even more heat.
If this scenario is correct the reefs along with billions of coastal dwelling inhabitants will be under water. Now humans can move and adapt quickly so it should not affect them in that respect. However coral especially SPS will bleach due to the strains of hotter seas and less light, as the oceans rise the reefs get deeper and deeper. This neglects the whole run away weather aspect of the scenario however, who can say what will happen.
It would seem we need to make earth a bit more reflective if we are to stave the "Great Balancing"
As for what we can do, I have no clue and it is really pointless to do anything unless everyone agrees there is a problem This likely wont happen as humans have a tendency to want to be right no matter how wrong they may actually be, by the time they figure out what's going on it may be too late to take any action as I see it. This is not a government or political issue it is a potential global threat which deserves serious investigation from a global panel more so than any event in our recorded history.
We like fast cars and SUVs and we leave our appliances on when we are not around. We do this because our parents did it and theirs before them and so on. No generation likes to be the one to start a change. However IF the current models that are coming out are correct WE are in bigger trouble than I had previously thought. It is estimated that within 100 years time the global temperature will be an average of 20 degrees higher than it is today. HOW could the number be so high? I had not considered this aspect. As the ice sheets melt we loose more and more reflection and the planet becomes darker and darker with sea water as the oceans grow larger which causes them to absorb even more heat.
If this scenario is correct the reefs along with billions of coastal dwelling inhabitants will be under water. Now humans can move and adapt quickly so it should not affect them in that respect. However coral especially SPS will bleach due to the strains of hotter seas and less light, as the oceans rise the reefs get deeper and deeper. This neglects the whole run away weather aspect of the scenario however, who can say what will happen.
It would seem we need to make earth a bit more reflective if we are to stave the "Great Balancing"
As for what we can do, I have no clue and it is really pointless to do anything unless everyone agrees there is a problem This likely wont happen as humans have a tendency to want to be right no matter how wrong they may actually be, by the time they figure out what's going on it may be too late to take any action as I see it. This is not a government or political issue it is a potential global threat which deserves serious investigation from a global panel more so than any event in our recorded history.
mcox33
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Our parents and grandparents used alluminum (sp) roofing on their houses to but we don't, so we lose reflectivity there. I wonder if that has anything to do with global warming. Just something to wonder about. I wonder how many other ways our improvements, have cut down on the area that reflects the sun back.
firefish2020
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Yes you are right making roofs more reflective or at least painting them all white would result in more available surface reflection. Of course so would increasing the cloud mass on the planet which is exactly what I believe the earth will likely do to try to come back into balance, just speculation nothing more.
WVfishguy
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Old biologists seldom get excited over the extinction of anything. They know Earth's history is a series of extinction events.
If the coral reefs die off, then they die off. Sorry to be so blase, but extinctions have been going on for hundreds of millions of years, as have global climate changes. As I said before, we greatly overestimate our own sense of importance. Does anyone really think that if there were no humans on Earth, the climate would never change? Does anyone believe there would be no more extinctions?
As a former newspaper editor, I'll tell you this: Nothing sells like doomsday. And if doomsday can somehow be linked to man's activities, then it becomes a profitable story indeed.
If the coral reefs die off, then they die off. Sorry to be so blase, but extinctions have been going on for hundreds of millions of years, as have global climate changes. As I said before, we greatly overestimate our own sense of importance. Does anyone really think that if there were no humans on Earth, the climate would never change? Does anyone believe there would be no more extinctions?
As a former newspaper editor, I'll tell you this: Nothing sells like doomsday. And if doomsday can somehow be linked to man's activities, then it becomes a profitable story indeed.
firefish2020
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Yep I do, I have seen the data and I find it odd that the greatest spike of change occurs following the industrial revolution and continue to present day. Of course the data can be biased, that does not mean it is though. But I don't think this is a matter of doom selling this time. In fact you really don't here that much about the seriousness of this problem for some reason? Im not sure why it is so hard to believe that humans have the power to change their environment but the truth is we do and we apparently have.
Of course extinction is a part of earth history, I do not discount that at all. We are not talking about external or internal earth changes here, we are talking about atmospheric changes. In the past such changes could have been due to volcanic activity but I don't think we have seen enough of that kind of activity to attribute it to this recent data.
For the record Im not one of those people who are easily brainwashed or manipulated by the media, global warming was on my radar before it was ever taken seriously by many scientists.
The data I have been collecting for years only confirms what the media is starting to report today. I have nothing to prove or gain from posting any of this, I post it here for those who want to see it or who might be interested in the subject not start arguments on either side guys.
Remember just because something sounds to sensational or improbable or we don't want it to be true, does not mean it can never happen.
More data to come...
