This One Goes Out To All Those Whos Wife Said NO!!!

[oneoffcustom]

Ok so lil intro about me. My name is Nick, and i am addicted to reefing.

My background story is several faild nanos, with partial success. I have been in the hobby long enough to learn the hardest lessons to learn.

1. patience
2. bigger is better
3. buy good quality parts. (aka, do not skimp)
4. always research

Now after about 5 nano failures, some my fault, one ikes fault, and thousands of dollars, needless to say my wife hated me. I made a deal with her that if i were able to buy a 29 gallon oceanic biocube, i would never purchase another tank for 5 years. After that went sour, i turned to my family lawyer Mike Prater to represent me in a case to get a bigger tank. I worked the angle, my problems would be less and i would have more time to react. Now this talk has gone for a month and a quick settle out of family court she agreed to a 90 gallon aquarium. So boys here is my new tank. Thank you to my wife, i love you more than ever!!!

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Full shot

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See all is possible. I want this build to be my dream build so it will be slow, and any and all help is welcomed.

 

[oneoffcustom]

Pics messed up

Pics messed up

I love this part


Yessssss

 

[jdjeepster]

does the wife know it's a 150

 

[oneoffcustom]

Yes wife is aware that it is a 150. She was swayed when shown the available fish that could be housed in it. She is a tang lover, as am i. I really wanted to be able to keep an emparator angel as well. I will be starting the stand next week. I am building myself so and feed back would be great.

 

[~sp0ok~]

:lol:
good one jdjeepster
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nice tank oneoffcustom

 

[Untamed12]

You know...the whole thing about "bigger tanks being more stable/easier" is something people have to be cautious with.

Yes, problems can happen quicker with a smaller tank...but they are also easier to correct. You'll have the same problems with a big tank, they'll just sneak up on you slowly and be more difficult to fix.

Just make sure the lessons you learned with smaller tanks continue to apply. Don't expect the big tank to bail you out.

 

[oneoffcustom]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14294739#post14294739 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Untamed12
You know...the whole thing about "bigger tanks being more stable/easier" is something people have to be cautious with.

Yes, problems can happen quicker with a smaller tank...but they are also easier to correct. You'll have the same problems with a big tank, they'll just sneak up on you slowly and be more difficult to fix.

Just make sure the lessons you learned with smaller tanks continue to apply. Don't expect the big tank to bail you out.

Well to hope a bigger tank would bail me out would be crazy. I do and will however take the advice that more water = better stability and faster reaction time to tend to problems. I will apply all and every lesson learned to this tank. But thanks for the pointers as they are welcomed in this build thread.

 

[wmilas]

With bigger it just takes longer to really mess it up. Once its messed up it just takes longer to un-mess it up Either way, it still gets messed up eventually

 

[serpentman]

Congrats on the upgrade. You will be amazed how quickly the 150 will be just a bit too small. Then you will find yourself selling your wife again like I have been:

"C'mon honey, a 300L is only 6" wider and 2' longer. You won't even notice..."

 

[oneoffcustom]

Thats hilariouse and probably true. If anyone would like the name and contact info of my family lawyer for swaying power i can lend it out lol..

Like i said i have learned my lesson, and probably used the term failure lightly. I still have most of my original coral, infact i killed a small colony of yellow polyps in first tank due to copper, and then second was a bubble coral that just slowly withered away.

Thanks for the congrats i am super pumped.

I plan on slowly aquireing the good parts.

 

[michealprater]

You guys cannot afford me.

Looking forward to it Slick!

 

[oneoffcustom]

Sweet Score!!!

Sweet Score!!!

I just scored a killer pm skimmer, and collection cup. Heres some pics of it. Also the standard baby in big tank photo. But this is the prettiest baby girl ever. True edwards bloodline.

Skimmer

Baby in tank

Skimmer again

Man i am so pumped. I will be starting the stand this next week. Stay with me folks. And again any input would be awesome. I am looking for any tips on pump for skimmer. I was thinking mag 12 for skimmer and dat reeflo for returns. Any other suggestions???

 

[Jruberti]

looking good

 

[melev]

That tank (and its sump) will be much too small for a Reeflo Dart. It is too small for a Reeflo Snapper. What about a nice Eheim pump instead?

150g times 3 = 450gph

or

150g times 5 = 750gph

That's all you need for the return. It's job is to get water from the sump into the display tank, not provide in-tank flow. Plus higher flow through the sump (and refugium) usually won't benefit the macro, the skimmer, nor the reduction of microbubbles.

 

[michealprater]

I have a Dart on my 250 with a 75 gallon sump and I was amazed at how little flow it actually puts out, so I have to disagree that it is too big. (my fuge is separate from the sump) However, it is dang hard to argue with Melev.

 

[mm949]

to bad u didnt show up w/this

 

[melev]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14306673#post14306673 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by michealprater
I have a Dart on my 250 with a 75 gallon sump and I was amazed at how little flow it actually puts out, so I have to disagree that it is too big. (my fuge is separate from the sump) However, it is dang hard to argue with Melev.

My 280g has a Dart-like pump on a sump that could hold 150g to the top. I run it at 80g. The Little Giant pump moves 3500gph at 5' head pressure, and my display has two 1.5" drains.

I don't believe my pump is moving 3500gph though, since I have two 1" returns that then pump into 3/4" locline for a few inches, but a 1.5" drain can handle up to 1500gph.

His tank is 100g smaller, and his sump will probably be more like 40g - 50g of water in a 40" long sump (since the external pump needs space too), compared to my 60" long sump. I'm not trying to argue, as there is no point in doing so. However, I would like to help him avoid aggravation and a possible divorcing.

 

[michealprater]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14308851#post14308851 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
My 280g has a Dart-like pump on a sump that could hold 150g to the top. I run it at 80g. The Little Giant pump moves 3500gph at 5' head pressure, and my display has two 1.5" drains.

I don't believe my pump is moving 3500gph though, since I have two 1" returns that then pump into 3/4" locline for a few inches, but a 1.5" drain can handle up to 1500gph.

His tank is 100g smaller, and his sump will probably be more like 40g - 50g of water in a 40" long sump (since the external pump needs space too), compared to my 60" long sump. I'm not trying to argue, as there is no point. However, I would like to help him avoid aggravation and a possible divorcing.

That makes perfect sense, Nick you heard the man.

Melev, I am Nick's cousin and I have spent countless hours helping Nick out to the best of my ability. (I am in IL, so it can be difficult at times) I consider you one of the most respected reefers around. Thanks for commenting on his build. I would be honored if you would do so on mine also.

 

[michealprater]

Also, what size Eheim do you recommend for his tank?

 

[oneoffcustom]

Wow Melev on my post, now im feeling good about things. Yeah melev what side would you recommend as far as return and then as far as skimmer pump. Would mag 12 do good on the skimmer at 1200 gph an hour? Also I am thinking a 55 gallon sump or even 40 breeder, which would you do?