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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7536025#post7536025 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jay24k
Sanders is a better quality one. You can also perform normal maintenance on it unlike the Red Sea. I've heard from several people many brands of ozone flaking out after awhile. However, the sanders make has always been the best in quality. And imo, it wasn't alot more if I recall.

I also heard Sanders have there problem to .
The maintenance that you can perform on the Sanders is very minimum in my opinion.
I think Ozotech make better ozonizer than Senders .
But we don't know any way i just go by my experience with the seven years Old Red Sea i had it performs good till i drop it and it cropped out.

 

[jknecht]

ghever

I have a Sander 50mg for sale in the selling forum if interested.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=863805

 

[grochmal]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7536093#post7536093 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by okdave
Has anyone set up an ozone reactor to pump the ozone into their tank instead of using a skimmer. When I injected ozone through the skimmer it caused erratic skimming. I have put the ozonizer on the shelf until I can find or make a decent ozone reactor. I know coralife makes one but I have heard it does not work to well. There is a company in North Jersey that makes one but it is pricey at $350. Other than those two I have not heard of another on the market. I have heard that some are improvising phosban reactors as ozone reactors (?) If so, how well do they work? I have a new luft pump, air dryer, and Red Sea 50mg ozonizer, just need to get a good reaction chamber. Any suggestions?

You could try making your own
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php#12

 

[AntsReef]

Hi,
after reading this thread(no mean feat ) I have decided to have a go at adding ozone to my 200UKG tank.
I have bought an ozonizer that supplies 300mg/hr and has a timer which can be set to give bursts of ozone for 30mins,60mins or 90mins then go off four hours. I will feed my Deltec APF850 skimmer through the venturi input tubing before returning to the far end of my 4' sump.
I will attach the ozonizer to an ORP controller set at 350mv initially and set the ozonizer to come on for 30min bursts every four hours. For those with experience does this seem ok ?
Any advice gratefully received,
Anthony

 

[Billybeau1]

Sounds good but if you have a controller just set it for 350mv and when that is reached, it will shut down the ozonizer. And turn it back on below.

Also recommended dosage is .3 - .5 mg/hr per gallon, so setting the output at 1/3 or 100mg should do ya.

 

[AntsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7808965#post7808965 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Billybeau1
Sounds good but if you have a controller just set it for 350mv and when that is reached, it will shut down the ozonizer. And turn it back on below.

Also recommended dosage is .3 - .5 mg/hr per gallon, so setting the output at 1/3 or 100mg should do ya.

Thanks for the reply. I originally intended to do exactly as you suggested but I don't think the output is variable(my fault I should have checked,the unit arrives tomorrow).
So my thinking is that by having it on the timer I have a backup should the ORP controller go wrong.
What do you think ?
Anthony

 

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I set my controller for 325 and goes on maybe 2 Hours a day just enough to keep the water clear any more then that and the ozone kills the foam.

 

[AntsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7809129#post7809129 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
I set my controller for 325 and goes on maybe 2 Hours a day just enough to keep the water clear any more then that and the ozone kills the foam.

Hi Steve,
at what concentration is that ?
rgds,
Anthony

 

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I pump ozone in to a Deltec 902 skimmer i use a Y to split the ozone in to the two pumps so i use 25 Mg in every pump air intake of total 50Mg of ozone .
Deltec only allows 50Mg in every pump max but i think that is still to much for the O-rings so I split the ozone so i only use 25Mg, so i don't need to replace the O- rings as often. if you like i post the pictures in to my gallery.

 

[AntsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7809201#post7809201 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
I pump ozone in to a Deltec 902 skimmer i use a Y to split the ozone in to the two pumps so i use 25 Mg in every pump air intake of total 50Mg of ozone .
Deltec only allows 50Mg in every pump max but i think that is still to much for the O-rings so I split the ozone so i only use 25Mg, so i don't need to replace the O- rings as often. if you like i post the pictures in to my gallery.

I'd appreciate seeing some pics,
thanks,
Anthony

 

[AntsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7809122#post7809122 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AntsReef
Thanks for the reply. I originally intended to do exactly as you suggested but I don't think the output is variable(my fault I should have checked,the unit arrives tomorrow).
So my thinking is that by having it on the timer I have a backup should the ORP controller go wrong.
What do you think ?
Anthony

Anybody ?
I'm really concerned about this as on the Deltec website it says that you should dose no more than 50mg/h. I assume this is because of the potential damage to 'o' rings etc.

I am also concerned that adding at 300 mg/h will be too much of a boost in one go even if only for a relatively short time.
I'd really appreciate a bit of input from the experienced ozone users,
TIA,
Anthony

 

[Billybeau1]

Wait till you get your unit. It should have a way to control the output. Hopefully.

 

[jacob30]

I run a 300 mg/h (Enaly) unit and this is how I do it: I have a controller to turn power on and off based on ORP and also I have a timer (the kind with numerous little pins that can be pushed in) plugged into the controller's power output which the ozone unit is plugged into fed into a Deltec 851. So I basically have two levels of control. One is ORP based and one is time based. The max on time is limited by the timer to allow no more than 50 mg/h and the max ORP is set to 400.

So Antsreef this sounds similar to your original idea so go with that.

Cheers!

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7812904#post7812904 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacob30
I run a 300 mg/h (Enaly) unit and this is how I do it: I have a controller to turn power on and off based on ORP and also I have a timer (the kind with numerous little pins that can be pushed in) plugged into the controller's power output which the ozone unit is plugged into fed into a Deltec 851. So I basically have two levels of control. One is ORP based and one is time based. The max on time is limited by the timer to allow no more than 50 mg/h and the max ORP is set to 400.

So Antsreef this sounds similar to your original idea so go with that.

Cheers!

I don't get it if you have 300 mg/h (Enaly) ozonizer when the controller activate the unit it will pump the whole 300 MG in to the skimmer don't make any different if you have it for 5 minutes or one hour you need to get a ozonizer that have a way to control the amount of ozone and then you can set it to 50Mg .
Now if i'm not mistaken you have no way adjusting the 300 mg/h (Enaly) so be carful it will make the 851 useless in no time i use ozone for ten years now and saw what 300Mg of ozone can do .

 

[AntsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7813129#post7813129 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
I don't get it if you have 300 mg/h (Enaly) ozonizer when the controller activate the unit it will pump the whole 300 MG in to the skimmer don't make any different if you have it for 5 minutes or one hour you need to get a ozonizer that have a way to control the amount of ozone and then you can set it to 50Mg .
Now if i'm not mistaken you have no way adjusting the 300 mg/h (Enaly) so be carful it will make the 851 useless in no time i use ozone for ten years now and saw what 300Mg of ozone can do .

Looks like my brand new 300mg/h ozonizer will have to be dumped:eek2:
I will get a Sander C50 50mg/h ozonizer as this seems to be the maximum amount of ozone that I should feed into my Deltec skimmer. I just hope a 50mg/h unit can cope with my 200UKG system,
rgds,
Anthony

 

[jacob30]

No you will not get the full 300 mg in 5 minutes. That is just simply not correct. Now you will get a rate of 300 mg/h but if it is on for 5 minutes the math works out to be 25 mg delivered in five minutes.

300mg/h X1 h =300 mg

300mg/h x .083 h (5 minutes)= 25 mg

Timer set to allow 5 minutes of on time per hour yields 25 mg.

I understand that the rate is greater but the total delivered is not as much when a timer is used.

Ideally if you have a ozone generator that can be set that is the best because it will deliver say 50 mg over the entire course of an hour vs. over five or ten minutes.

 

[AntsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7815713#post7815713 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacob30
No you will not get the full 300 mg in 5 minutes. That is just simply not correct. Now you will get a rate of 300 mg/h but if it is on for 5 minutes the math works out to be 25 mg delivered in five minutes.

300mg/h X1 h =300 mg

300mg/h x .083 h (5 minutes)= 25 mg

Timer set to allow 5 minutes of on time per hour yields 25 mg.

I understand that the rate is greater but the total delivered is not as much when a timer is used.

Ideally if you have a ozone generator that can be set that is the best because it will deliver say 50 mg over the entire course of an hour vs. over five or ten minutes.

Thanks for that but as posted earlier my system is as follows;
Ozoniser - 300mg/h fixed....This however is has an integal timer that switches on for user set period of 30mins,60mins or 90mins.It then switches off for four hours.
The ozonizer will also be connected to an ORP controller that I will set initially at 350mv.
So in a 30 minute period there will be approx. 150mg added to the system unless 350mv is reached in which case the ozonizer will be switched off. It will then come on again four hours later if the level has dropped below 350mv.
I do not think I need worry about any ill effects to my tank but I am worried about damage to my skimmer which Deltec say shouldn't have more than 50mg/h passed to it. Of course I'm sure Deltec have built in a safety factor,
any further input appreciated,
Anthony

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7536344#post7536344 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
I also heard Sanders have there problem to .
The maintenance that you can perform on the Sanders is very minimum in my opinion.

Theres two parts to the unit basically. Its just a pair of plates and an electricity source. I dont see how they could make any more maintenance possible.

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7816239#post7816239 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
Theres two parts to the unit basically. Its just a pair of plates and an electricity source. I dont see how they could make any more maintenance possible.

Some reefers had to send there Senders ozonizers back to Germany for repairs because no one was able to fix them in USA. The reefer (DeltecRules) is one of them .

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7815713#post7815713 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacob30
No you will not get the full 300 mg in 5 minutes. That is just simply not correct. Now you will get a rate of 300 mg/h but if it is on for 5 minutes the math works out to be 25 mg delivered in five minutes.

300mg/h X1 h =300 mg

300mg/h x .083 h (5 minutes)= 25 mg

Timer set to allow 5 minutes of on time per hour yields 25 mg.

I understand that the rate is greater but the total delivered is not as much when a timer is used.

Ideally if you have a ozone generator that can be set that is the best because it will deliver say 50 mg over the entire course of an hour vs. over five or ten minutes.

I may be a little slow help me out here!!!
You saying that when the ozonizer kicks in you will not get a full blast of ozone in to the skimmer ? but it will slowly come up to a full 300Mg after one hour? so I can run a 300mg ozone in to my Deltec for 10 minutes and that will be only 50Mg approximately in the skimmer?
If I have it correctly let me know ?